[AT] Good tractor day

[charlie hill]

George,

When I was a kid I stood a D-10 Allis up 90 degrees to the ground.  I was 
going up a steep slope with a bush hog that was too heavy for the front end 
of the tractor and I had the lift raised.  I'm not exagerating when I say 90 
degrees either.  The only thing that saved me was that the bush hog had a 
very heavy frame (AC snap coupler frame on an AC model 160 brush cutter) and 
it held the weight of the tractor and kept it from going over backwards.  It 
eventually fell back over on it's wheels with no harm done once I got near 
the top of the slope.

I'm with you.  NO chain top links for me on a bush hog and for absolutely NO 
chains on a back hoe.

Charlie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Willer" <gwill at toast.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Good tractor day


> I've heard the argument that chain is NOT OK to replace the top link for 
> safety reasons.  It's possible under the right conditions to find yourself 
> wearing the mower for a hat!  The stiff top link helps hold the mower down 
> if it hits an obstruction just right (wrong).  You can't count on the 
> drive shaft alone to save you.
>
> George Willer
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:49 PM
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>
>> Using a chain for a top link is OK for brush mowers, but you need 
>> something pretty rigid for almost anything else, especially a backhoe. 
>> When I sold Woods equipment, the three point backhoes required a steel 
>> bracket arrangement that bolted to the final drive housing to attach the 
>> top of the backhoe. Anything less would tear up the top link attachment 
>> point, especially if the tractor had a draft sensing mechanism that 
>> worked off the top link (like Ford, etc., not IH).
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Almost-Running Deere wrote:
>>> I have seen chains as the top lik on these units before
>>>
>>>> From: Wayne Snelling <wsnelling at southplainscollege.edu>
>>>> Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
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>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Good tractor day
>>>> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:16:47 -0600
>>>>
>>>> Charlie: There are different lengths of the upper arm, i.e.; top link. 
>>>> Could you not get a longer top link? Or make a top link?
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>
>>
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