[AT] Good tractor day

[charlie hill]

I agree John.  I think a permanent mount is in the future.  I have another 
D-14 that might become the dedicated back hoe tractor.
If you could see a picture of the unit you would see that modifying the top 
link is not an easy fix.  Changing the bottom link location is much easier 
and will have the same effect.  The top link on this unit is solid mount to 
the tractor top link once it is attached.  The outriggers take the load of 
the backhoe while it is digging and the lower 3pt links just stabilize the 
whole thing.

The problem will come in if I start to ripping and snatching on roots etc. 
or trying to lift the rear of the tractor with the hoe and I would be 
inclined to do both if it suited my purpose while digging.

Thanks

Charlie
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From: "jfgrant" <jfgrant at triton.net>
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> Hi Charlie. In my limited experience with 3 point BH I would suggest that 
> you make a short top link for temporary use but I also think you are 
> correct that this unit might be better used bolted up to a different 
> tractor in a solid configuration. 3 point is ok for small jobs, temp. use, 
> etc. If you plan on doing some serious digging, lifting, etc, there is a 
> VERY good chance that you will tear up the 3 point or worse, the rear 
> casting etc. The 3 point was NOT intended for this type and direction of 
> use. Good Luck. John Grant
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
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>> Wayne it doesn't have a top link as such.  It has a rigid frame that 
>> bolts to the bottom of the backhoe near the base of the outriggers and 
>> runs back toward the tractor top link connection at about  a 45 deg 
>> angle.   The two legs of the frame angle in and meet each other right at 
>> the top link connection point and are bolted together sandwiched around a 
>> piece of 1/2 plate that has the top link mounting boss welded in it. 
>> That all lines up with the top link connection on the tractor and a pin 
>> goes through it. (this is truely where a picture is worth a thousand 
>> words).   The 1/2" plate can be adjusted an inch or two but that it.
>>
>> It is much easier to add new connection points for the bottom links.
>>
>> I'm not sure I'm going to like the 3 pt hook up and I might, in time, 
>> figure out a way to frame mount it on a different tractor.   My backhoe 
>> experience is with bigger commercial machines.  I'm used to being able to 
>> pick up the rear of the tractor with the boom to reposition it.  I'm not 
>> sure the 3 pt links will stand that kind of abuse.
>>
>> You asked if I could get a longer top link.  Actually that is the 
>> problem. The top "frame" is too long and forces the top of the backhoe 
>> too far back such that it does not sit up straight when hooked up.  It is 
>> just easier to make the bottom attachment longer to match the top than it 
>> is to cut the top frame down.
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Wayne Snelling" <wsnelling at southplainscollege.edu>
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>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:16 PM
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>>> Charlie: There are different lengths of the upper arm, i.e.; top link. 
>>> Could you not get a longer top link? Or make a top link?
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
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