[AT] Oil Filter question

[charlie hill]

Thanks Bret and Ron,

I've been  buying and using oil filters for AC's since the 60's and have 
never run a problem before and this is the first time I've seen this new 
designed filter.  I'll just make sure I don't get any more of them.

Bad thing is that all of my usual local suppliers were out of stock.  I 
needed a filter and drove about 70 miles round trip to get it.   Since I was 
there and have another D-14 that needs to be serviced I bought 2 at $12.99 
each.   So now I have $26 + tax and about 5 gals of $2.28 gas tied up in 
these two pieces of junk.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Phillips" <bphillip at shentel.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Oil Filter question


> Charlie:
>
> The fellows on the Unofficial Allis Chalmers forum have hashed this out in
> depth several times.  The consensus there is that the WIX filters are
> unsuitable to the AC system.  AGCO even had this problem, as they were
> buying their filters from WIX.  They have since switched to Fleetguard.
> Other acceptable filters are the FRAM C-159, and Baldwin T300M.  In my 
> area,
> TSC stocks the FRAM, and a heavy truck parts store can get me the Baldwin.
> Right now, I'm using a FRAM on my '43 C.  I believe your D-14 uses the 
> same
> filter.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Brett
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:12 AM
> Subject: [AT] Oil Filter question
>
>
>> Older Allis Chalmers, Case and maybe some other tractors use a rag filled
>> oil filter that is presure fed into the filter media via a small tube 
>> that
>> extends up into the filter.   I just bought  2 filters yesterday that are
>> WIX brand (good filters) but they are no longer rag filled.
>> Now they have a rubber bladder inside that the oil tube goes up into.
>> Around the bladder their is an air space and then some filter media 
>> around
>> the perimeter of the filter canister.
>>
>> It looks like a good design but unfortunately my D-14 won't build proper
> oil
>> presure with this filter.   AC used the rag filter to "regulate" oil
> presure
>> by restricting the flow through the filter media.
>> I assume that this new filter design is made to do the same thing but it
>> doesn't seem to work.   With the old rag filter my oil presure guage 
>> moves
>> the needle to about the middle of the guage.  With the new filter it
> barely
>> moves off the low presure peg.
>>
>> I checked the WIX web site and they show this filter #51101 as the proper
>> filter for my tractor however they show it as obsolete and say it is
>> replaced by #57011 ( I think that is the number).  Does anyone one have
>> experience with this new design or information about the filter change,
>> etc.?
>>
>> Everyone around here is out of stock on these filters.  Both the local
> NAPA
>> stores show it as back ordered from their distribution center.  I had to
>> drive 35 miles one way to get this filter and I bought 2 at $12.99 each.
> I
>> need to run the tractor.  I guess I'll just  put the old one back on.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
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