[AT] Oil Filter question

charlie hill chill8 at cox.net
Sat Jul 9 08:34:00 PDT 2005


Here is a link someone sent me off list.  It pretty well tells the story on 
the two filter types and the AC oil system.

http://www.oktractor.com/filter/

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Brueck" <b2 at chooka.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: [AT] Oil Filter question


>I have a friend with an Allis WC who inadvertently threw away the little
> center pipe once when changing oil filters.  Of course the tractor did not
> show oil pressure after that.  Much to my dismay, he used the tractor
> (lightly, just a retired guy with a few acres, I don't think he plowed 
> with
> it or anything) for a year that way!  I finally convinced him to bring it
> over so I could check it for him, I found the pipe missing and made one 
> for
> him out of a brake line.  Pressure restored.
>
> So point being I expect the engine was getting oil all along anyway.
>
> Will be interested in other posting about this, I've wondered what was
> happening with Jerry's WC that year.
>
>>
> Bill Brueck (brick)
> Chatfield, MN, USA
>
> Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:13 AM
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> Subject: [AT] Oil Filter question
>
> Older Allis Chalmers, Case and maybe some other tractors use a rag filled
> oil filter that is presure fed into the filter media via a small tube that
> extends up into the filter.   I just bought  2 filters yesterday that are
> WIX brand (good filters) but they are no longer rag filled.
> Now they have a rubber bladder inside that the oil tube goes up into.
> Around the bladder their is an air space and then some filter media around
> the perimeter of the filter canister.
>
> It looks like a good design but unfortunately my D-14 won't build proper 
> oil
>
> presure with this filter.   AC used the rag filter to "regulate" oil 
> presure
>
> by restricting the flow through the filter media.
> I assume that this new filter design is made to do the same thing but it
> doesn't seem to work.   With the old rag filter my oil presure guage moves
> the needle to about the middle of the guage.  With the new filter it 
> barely
> moves off the low presure peg.
>
> I checked the WIX web site and they show this filter #51101 as the proper
> filter for my tractor however they show it as obsolete and say it is
> replaced by #57011 ( I think that is the number).  Does anyone one have
> experience with this new design or information about the filter change,
> etc.?
>
> Everyone around here is out of stock on these filters.  Both the local 
> NAPA
> stores show it as back ordered from their distribution center.  I had to
> drive 35 miles one way to get this filter and I bought 2 at $12.99 each. 
> I
> need to run the tractor.  I guess I'll just  put the old one back on.
>
> Thanks
>
> Charlie
>
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