[AT] Oil Filter question

charlie hill chill8 at cox.net
Sat Jul 9 08:18:25 PDT 2005


I did some searching  online and found several references to the problem 
with the new design WIX/NAPA filters.  I called the dealer I bought mine 
from and he swore there was no problem with them but he offered to let me 
return it (after it had been installed and run) and I didn't ask him.

Check out this web page http://www.tonystractors.com/images/oilfilterslg.JPG

It shows the correct AGCO filter which is like all the aftermarket filters 
from CarQuest, Fram, etc. that I've been buying for 40 years.
Beside it is the new WIX/NAPA filter that  won't work.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Brueck" <b2 at chooka.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: [AT] Oil Filter question


>I have a friend with an Allis WC who inadvertently threw away the little
> center pipe once when changing oil filters.  Of course the tractor did not
> show oil pressure after that.  Much to my dismay, he used the tractor
> (lightly, just a retired guy with a few acres, I don't think he plowed 
> with
> it or anything) for a year that way!  I finally convinced him to bring it
> over so I could check it for him, I found the pipe missing and made one 
> for
> him out of a brake line.  Pressure restored.
>
> So point being I expect the engine was getting oil all along anyway.
>
> Will be interested in other posting about this, I've wondered what was
> happening with Jerry's WC that year.
>
>>
> Bill Brueck (brick)
> Chatfield, MN, USA
>
> Confusion is a higher state of knowledge than ignorance.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:13 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: [AT] Oil Filter question
>
> Older Allis Chalmers, Case and maybe some other tractors use a rag filled
> oil filter that is presure fed into the filter media via a small tube that
> extends up into the filter.   I just bought  2 filters yesterday that are
> WIX brand (good filters) but they are no longer rag filled.
> Now they have a rubber bladder inside that the oil tube goes up into.
> Around the bladder their is an air space and then some filter media around
> the perimeter of the filter canister.
>
> It looks like a good design but unfortunately my D-14 won't build proper 
> oil
>
> presure with this filter.   AC used the rag filter to "regulate" oil 
> presure
>
> by restricting the flow through the filter media.
> I assume that this new filter design is made to do the same thing but it
> doesn't seem to work.   With the old rag filter my oil presure guage moves
> the needle to about the middle of the guage.  With the new filter it 
> barely
> moves off the low presure peg.
>
> I checked the WIX web site and they show this filter #51101 as the proper
> filter for my tractor however they show it as obsolete and say it is
> replaced by #57011 ( I think that is the number).  Does anyone one have
> experience with this new design or information about the filter change,
> etc.?
>
> Everyone around here is out of stock on these filters.  Both the local 
> NAPA
> stores show it as back ordered from their distribution center.  I had to
> drive 35 miles one way to get this filter and I bought 2 at $12.99 each. 
> I
> need to run the tractor.  I guess I'll just  put the old one back on.
>
> Thanks
>
> Charlie
>
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