[Farmall] Opinions on a Farmall 460 Utility

Tue Jul 5 07:17:33 PDT 2005

Thanks for the input.  I went by with a battery this weekend and was delighted to find that it still turns over and the compression sounds even across all the cylinders so I don't see any reason why it wouldn't run with a little ignition & carb work.  The proofmeter is still working too, the pointer was moving up a little as I turned it over, but I got confused with another tractor he has that I was looking at, this one actually has 3500 hours on it, not 1700.  So I'll talk to him this week and see if we can agree on a price, but I think I'll be bringing it home.  Wish me luck anyway! Thanks. John 

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John.Samulevich at alltel.com wrote:
> I've hung out on some of the other lists in the past to garner
> information about some of the tractors I've owned or thought about
> owning, I'm now looking at a 460 Utility and I'm pretty much Farmall
> ignorant so I'm hoping I can some opinions.  Mainly I have about 15
> acres to keep mowed and raked (a friend comes in and bales it),  plus
> a little plowing & disking, snow removal, driveway grading, etc, and
> I'd like to move up to something more modern than the JD B, 8n, and
> Ford 850 that I have now.  Have been wanting a Farmall for a while
> anyway and now a neighbor has this 460 that he's ready to sell.
I'll just bet he is, based on the condition it is in. :-) That tractor 
is rated at about 50 hp, so aside from the live PTO, power steering, 
loader, and 5 speeds, it isn't all that much stronger than your 850. If 
it has a working Torque Amplifier, that add considerably to it's 
functionality, but from the sounds of it, it either doesn't have a TA, 
or it doesn't work.
> 
> First, is there any way to tell if it has a live PTO, that's
> something I really want.
Yes, it is live.
> 
> Second, what's a fair price for something like this.  I know that's
> hard to comment on without seeing the tractor, but I'll say that it
> has seen better days.  It ran to where it was parked about seven
> years ago and has been sitting since.  Tires hold air but are shot,
Figure at least $500 for a set of rear tires and $50 more for fronts, 
plus tubes.

> left hood side panel (white piece that covers the spark plugs) is
> missing
They mostly all are, figure on $50 to replace it.

, and the air cleaner/crankcase breather assembly is missing.
Don't understand  - the crankcase breather is trivial, but if the air 
cleaner assembly is missing, you are going to have to find one at a 
salvage yard - figure another $100, plus a cartridge.

> I can't turn the engine by hand so I assume it's stuck, the muffler's
> still intact with a rain cap though so it shouldn't be too bad,
Don't hold your breath, but you might get lucky.

> it's
> a 6 cylinder gas.   Hour meter shows 1700 hours but don't know if
> it's correct.
Not likely in the condition you describe. The cable is probably broken, 
and they are hard to find. Or it might be the little plastic gear on the 
distributor housing, which is available. If the tach/hourmeter (aka 
"proofmeter") is shot, figure another $100+ to find a rebuilt.

>  Has PS and a loader that's been cracked & welded. Tin
> has surface rust but appears solid and is fairly straight.  It has a
> 3-point hitch, I assume since it's a utility that they all did.
It was an option.

> Other than that that's about all I can say right now about it.
Figure a loader is worth about $1000 on top of what almost any tractor 
would sell for. What you are looking at is probably worth about $2500 in 
that condition.

Mike
> 
> So any information and opinions are welcome.  THanks!  John 

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