[AJD] Delayed posts

[wjohnson]

Cry on Robert.  People like lyou don't help the list anyway.
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Robert M. Massengale" <ltcmikem at ktc.com>
To: Antique John Deere mailing list
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:58:15 -0600
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [AJD] Delayed posts

> Spencer -
> 
> I can understand your pride in ownership, but do believe you've
> overstepped here.  
> There is a problem with the timliness of posts that's causing long time
> contributors 
> to quit contributing.  That's two problems for ATIS.  Responding to
> Dean VP in the 
> fashion you did is likely to drive him and other contributing experts
> away leaving 
> new guys like me with a diminished resource pool.  I'd sure hate to see
> the AJD list 
> start looking like the Ford & Farmall lists.
> 
> Mike
> Robert M. Massengale
> Fredericksburg, Texas 78624
> 
> > Geez, you are comparing TWO DIFFERENT technologies.  Compare apples
> to
> > apples before run your mouth.   My bulletin board posts instantly
> too.
> > 
> > 
> > Spencer Yost
> > Owner, ATIS
> > Plow the Net!
> > http://www.atis.net
> > 
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > 
> > On 1/20/2005 at 1:21 AM Dean VP wrote:
> > 
> > >For those of you who think that delayed posts are the norm and have
> > >to be lived with, I suggest you go to www.ytmag.com and post a
> > >message. Your message will be on the board before you can check to
> > >see if it has arrived. 
> > >
> > >I have been on ATIS for almost 6 years now but the situation is
> > >getting to the point that it is untenable. It is very hard to
> > >understand the context of a question when answers sometimes arrive
> > >before the question does. Nor
> > does
> > >one want to look foolish in answering a question when there have
> been
> > >several identical answers given before any of them show up for
> > >review. 
> > >
> > >I have been helped immensely in the past by those who have
> > >contributed so mightily to this list but over time I see them slowly
> > >disappearing. I have tried to help those I can when possible and
> > >hopefully have helped as much as I have been helped. I have met some
> > >wonderful people in person who I never would have met had it not
> been
> > >for this list. But....the ATIS list is nothing more than a tool. If
> > >the tool isn't functional any more, a new
> > tool
> > >is needed. 
> > >
> > >I must admit I get impatient when things are not going right. And I
> > >have had to bite my tongue many times over the last few weeks. So I
> > >would like to pass along an old saying my father used to say:
> > >
> > >"If every time you walk through that door you get hit over the head,
> > >maybe a wise thing to do would be to not walk through that door any
> > >more."
> > >
> > >Life is too short to have to deal with things that irritate us. I've
> > >had some very good interchanges with several members of this list
> via
> > >private email. Maybe this is one of the potential solutions. And w/o
> > >all the
> > delays
> > >in the messages. 
> > >
> > >Sometimes solutions occur when there isn't anyone around to complain
> > >about it anymore.  
> > >
> > >Dean A. Van Peursem
> > >Snohomish, WA 98290
> > >
> > >I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
> > >storeroom door 
> > >
> > >
> > >www.deerelegacy.com
> > >
> > >http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > >[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On
> > >Behalf Of Ronald L. Cook Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:00 PM
> > >To: Antique John Deere mailing list Subject: Re: [AJD] Delayed posts
> > >
> > >I just received it at almost 5 PM Central time.  Interesting, isn't
> > >it? 
> > >  I'm not complaining.  I did receive it and at least this isn't a
> > >  Yahoo 
> > >list.  They are a whole nuther bunch of problems.
> > >
> > >Ron Cook
> > >Salix, IA
> > >
> > >Christopher Lynn wrote:
> > >
> > >> What Guy wrote pretty much summed up the problem I believe.  Over
> > >> my last 11 years of Internet use, email in general has gotten
> > >> slower due to
> > 
> > >> the increase in filtering, and to a degree, the increase in
> > >> traffic.  It
> > 
> > >> is not just an ATIS issue, but one that is created with the ISP's
> > >> as well.  Combine the ATIS filtering with the incoming or outgoing
> > >> filtering systems of each ATIS subscriber (of which most are
> likely
> > >> different), and there is going to be a definite lag time. Sending
> > >> email via an intranet is no longer instantaneous either.
> > >> 
> > >> Back in 1995, my messages would sometimes come right back to me
> > >> after I sent them to the main ATIS list.  Other times, responses
> > >> would come back
> > 
> > >> before I got my initial post.  This is the first message I sent to
> > >> this list in a long time, so I'll see how long it takes to show
> up.
> > >> 
> > >> Just my $.02
> > >> 
> > >> Chris
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Guy Fay wrote:
> > >> 
> > >>> I think it's the general Internet problem of mail getting slower,
> > >>> not just these lists. I do see slower return times on the main
> > >>> ATIS lists than the specific by makes. I also notice that the
> spam
> > >>> filter I get through my provider seems to have an effect as well-
> > >>> when it lets more spam through, it's faster, but the more it
> > >>> catches, it slows up the rest of the mail. Guy Fay
> > >>>
> > >>> Dee Schuyler wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Well I spoke offline with Dean this morning and he had pretty
> > >>>> much the same thing to add. I guess I will continue to read the
> > >>>> mail for a while but I am about burned out on posting. Guess I
> > >>>> will see what else is active? Thanks for your reply  Duane Dee
> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Larson"
> > ><jdlarson at comcast.net>
> > >>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
> > >>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:37 AM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] Delayed posts
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Dee,
> > >>>>> I have also raised this issue (perhaps too many times) but
> > >>>>> nothing has been done.  Exactly for your reasons I watch but
> > >>>>> don't participate much anymore on this list.  Too frustrating. 
> > >>>>> Spencer (or someone) posted some transfer times recently but
> > >>>>> they sure don't seem to apply to most things I respond to.  If
> I
> > >>>>> knew that the problem was on my end I could do something about
> > >>>>> it, but I don't know where it is.  The average daily traffic on
> > >>>>> this list seems to have decreased in the last 4-5 years as this
> > >>>>> delay problem has gotten worse - you are probably right, folks
> > >>>>> have transferred to the other
> > JD
> > >>>>> discussion forums.
> > >>>>> Duane Larson
> > >> 
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