[AT] O/T Meyers or Western plow

Wed Jan 26 07:00:39 PST 2005

Me thinks you're right, Lou.  Appreciate your opinion!

Thank you all for the very informative thread.

Take Care,
RickinMt.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis" <louis at kellnet.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: [AT] O/T Meyers or Western plow

> Rick,
>
> If I remember correctly, the Landcrusier is about the same as a Jeep CJ.
> If the is the case, I would suggest sticking with a 6 1/2' blade.  I
> think a 7 1/2' blade will be to much for a Landcruiser sized vehicle.  I
> have had snow plows on both Jeep CJ's and Wranglers.  I used a 6 1/2'
> blade.  There are days that I wished that I still had that set up.  It
> was great for small driveways and tight areas.
>
> Lou
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Strobel
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:56 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] O/T Meyers or Western plow
>
>
> First off..THANK YOU ALL for the pro's and con's and Spence for
> providing
> this super list!
>
>   Let me explain some of the winter conditions where I live (Helena
> valley
> foothills).  We seldom get the big dumps of snow.  Usually 3-6" at a
> time.
> Around a foot is the most cumulative I've ever seen on the ground in 30
> years.  Dry snow and wind does provide for good drifts tho and I'm sure
> you
> know how hard those are.
>
>   On this newly acquired '69 Toyota Landcruiser (btw it has a nice? pto,
>
> vacuum operated front winch which hopefully doesn't have to be removed
> for
> plow installation...yea, right:-)))
>   Anyway I don't need a quick on/off hitch.  I'll install it in the fall
> and
> remove in summer..that's July here<vbg>  So I'm thinking about a medium
> duty, 7 & 1/2 footer.
>   I got lucky as both Meyer and Western are located together..got their
> flyers yesterday.  Haven't looked for a Boss distributor yet, but the
> "V"
> and "Scoop" feature is impressive.
>
>   Mike, that stainless Fisher, and my champagne taste would go
> together...whew!! Their's a distributor in Great Falls...100 miles north
> so
> roadtrip will be in order.  Beer budget naturally, but it's a pretty
> tall
> plow and I like that.
>
>  So thanks again...will the 7 1/2 footer work for me?  with an
> occastional
> shot at a drift?
>
> RickinMt.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Reggie" <mrreg_99 at hotmail.com>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:44 AM
> Subject: RE: [AT] O/T Meyers or Western plow
>
>
> >
> >   Hello Richard, and list
> >
> >   Though I've been a member of the list since the fall of 1999, and I
> > enjoy
> > reading the list every day, I don't post too often, however I do try
> to
> > participate when I have some information to contribute, I do believe
> this
> > is
> > one of those times. I have been plowing and doing snow removal
> > commercially
> > for over 25 years, over that time I have had quite a few different
> brands
> > of
> > plows attached to all the different brands of trucks, and as you will
> have
> > different opinions on truck brands, so will you on brands of plows and
> > everything else[maybe even brands of antique tractors] however, I have
> in
> > the last ten or so years realized there is only one brand of snowplow,
> and
> > it is the Fisher. I could no longer even consider purchasing any other
> > brand, case in point, when I bought the truck I am currently using in
> > 1997,
> > the dealer had about a half dozen of the truck I wanted, but they all
> had
> > the Meyer brand plows on them, I explained to the salesman that we
> could
> > still make the deal on the new truck, however he would have to switch
> the
> > new meyer plow to my trade in and put my well worn Fisher on the new
> > truck,
> > both he and his manager could not believe this, but after a short time
>
> > were
> > able to get the truck in and have the meyer plow switched over for a
> > Fisher
> > and we made the deal on the new truck. I hate to be be the descending
> vote
> > against the Meyer and Western, but I just haven't seen a lot of
> service
> > delivered from either one of these plows.
> > I mean no offense to anyone, however, I believe the Meyer should
> actually
> > come with one of those warning stickers that seem to get plastered
> onto
> > almost everything except maybe bagged feathers, but this one should
> read
> > "DO NOT EXPOSE TO SNOW FOR MORE THAN MAYBE AN HOUR OR SO, AS EXTREME
> > FRUSTRATION WILL OCCUR".
> >
> > The Western is not a bad plow, but that is precisely it, it's not bad,
>
> > it, like the Meyer and many others it still uses regular vertical type
>
> > tensioning springs and allow [or more so, promote] the whole blade
> > folding foward and remaining that way during the foward push which
> > makes it not float as is ideal, but make it go "light" to the point
> > you actually can not feel it and the load, most of which it's dumped
> > and you have now driven over.
> >
> >   The Diamond, when this plow first hit the market, I quiclkly bought
> > one, the reason being it was everything I liked in a plow and none of
> > the stuff I didn't. I'll explain what I mean..........
> >
> >   When The company that now owns both Fisher and Western bought these
> > companies, Fisher put a few stipulations on their selling, the main
> > one being that the new company would not change the design of the
> > actual Speedcast snowplow, and that it will not be made in an electric
>
> > over hydraulic design. Unfortunately due to the motor vehicle
> > regulations just a few short years later, it was mandated that the
> > front headgear for snowplows
> > could no longer remain on the vehicle year round, and so the unimount
> > design[also a Fisher design and innovation years ahead of everyone
> else]
> > became the standard for all plows.
> > When the actual sale took place, a few of the engineers and key people
>
> > from
> > Fisher left the company and formed their own company, they called it
> > Diamond, they made and marked their own plow with the proven Fisher
> style
> > torsion spring trip-edge design, full chasis mounted headgear, and the
>
> > best
> > part, the actual Fisher engine driven full hydraulic pump and joystick
> > controls, and because it was new the price was quite a few hundred
> dollars
> > less than what was now the actual placarded Fisher. Boy was I happy, I
>
> > used
> > that plow troublefree until I sold the truck. In the interim, the
> original
> > Diamond company was having all kinds of growing pains and did not have
> the
> > capital to make the move over to the now mandatory minute-mount
> design,
> > and
> > was ripe for the picking, Meyer quickly sucked them up and
> incorporated
> > it's
> > own electric-over pump and controls, which as far as I know is where
> it is
> > at today.
> >
> >   Sorry Cecil, but I think that is the weak link on your Diamond, the
> > Meyer
> > controls.
> >
> >   The Fishers have been, for the whole time they have been offering an
>
> > electric over hydraulic control, been using the Western pump and
> > switches which I must say have proven very reliable, I was and have
> > been since the very first time I tried it very happy when I hit that
> > angle switch with a full blade of snow, and the elect/hyd pump
> > actually moved it.  I can remember when the Fisher Speedcast was the
> > ONLY  plow on the market, hydraulic or otherwise that could do this.
> >
> >   Sorry if this sounds like a rant or a sales pitch for the Fisher,
> > it's
> > not
> > meant to be, just my opinion and my personal experiences, I hope it
> will
> > be
> > of help.
> >
> >    Pleased to be participating ................ Mike
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
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> > Subject: [AT] O/T Meyers or Western plow
> > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:25:47 -0700
> >
> >    Howdy all;
> > Need some mad money for this ole iron addiction.  Bought me a fairly
> > nice '69 Toyota Landcruiser and now need a snow plow and then we'll go
>
> > to work. Meyers and Western are probably the most popular here in the
> > NW.
> >
> > Anyone got any pro's and con's on either?
> >
> > Sorry for the off topic post, but dern it, I want it all!!
> >
> > TIA
> > RickinMt.
> >
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