[AJD] Re:Internet connections

Tue Jan 25 11:42:46 PST 2005

Thank you Greg and Spencer for an education.  What is the best guess as 
to when the everyday consumer will see the benefits of these explorations?

Gary

Spencer Yost wrote:
> Some of the technical short-comings of the Internet , as it exists today,
> has to do with addressing and routing(how computers get a home on the
> Internet and how do you get their data to them).  The Internet, as it was
> initially conceived, could not see today's use and sheer number of
> computers.  This was beyond anyone's comprehension and some problems were
> created.  To correct some of these, some industry common use practices and
> other "standards by caveat" emerged.  These have kept us humming along
> nicely.  However, they weren't the final answer and aren't actually part of
> the "Internet standard".
> 
> The Internet works by addressing and routing on a standard named IP.  The
> newer and better standard that alleviate or removes the short-comings is
> IPV6. We are using IPV4.  BTW, 4 and 6 pertain to technical aspects of the
> data packets, they aren't version numbers. so don't ask me what happened to
> IPV5 (-;  This is a sea change though and hasn't been implemented yet
> because for it to work, everyone has to do IPV6.  While most equipment you
> buy is IPV6 compatible and most important Internet software like DNS and
> Web serving software are ready, not everyone or everything is, especially
> in foreign countries.   Therefore, it will take another few years.
> 
> This isn't Internet2 though
> 
> Internet2 happened when many leaders in the industry (which thank God isn't
> businesses yet) took the opportunity and example the transition to IPV6
> created and decided we needed to use to opportunity to realize that more
> than just addressing and routing needed to be looked at.  How we think
> about software, the Internet, and important software that empowers the
> Internet should be freshly examined and a new larger vision for what it
> could be needs to be developed.  I agree.
> 
> That re-examination and vision development and the results of those
> endeavors is what Internet2 is.  While it is a much more than the IPV4 to
> IPV6 transition, it arose out of that effort.(in fact,  IPV6 migration is
> right at the top of its fact sheet).
> 
> Spencer Yost
> Owner, ATIS
> Plow the Net!
> http://www.atis.net
> 
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>>On Mon Jan 24 21:56 , Gary Epps <garyepps at fidnet.com> sent:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Greg, news travels slow here in the mid south.  What is Internet 2?
>>>
>>>Gary
>>>
>>>greg at theoldtractorcompany.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Interesting speed on your internet connection Steve.
>>>>As I've said before, I am on wireless broadband (beamed from a
>>
>>stationary antennae to 
>>
>>>>subscribers in its footprint) and I have had it for about four years.
>>
>>Interesting thing is 
>>the 
>>
>>>>speed is scalable. 
>>>>I just ran a speed test and I am consistently running over 2 Mbps which
>>
>>is well over T-1 
>>speeds.
>>
>>>>And yet I am still irritated at the speeds sometime as many factors
>>
>>contribute to final 
>>
>>>>connection speeds. Plus it's always on, no dialing up, and I have at
>>
>>present 5 computers 
>>hooked 
>>
>>>>to it in the house.
>>>>Pricing is a bit steep, about $60 a month but I feel it's worth it for
>>
>>the speed and ease of 
>>
>>>>use.
>>>>The great thing about wireless broadband is it can be installed
>>
>>anywhere if a company wants 
>>to.
>>
>>>>City rooftops, countryside, whereever.
>>>>
>>>>And just when we think we have this all figured out, Internet2 is
>>
>>coming! Oh yeah!
>>
>>>>Greg
>>>>
>>>>Greg Stephen
>>>>The Old Tractor Company
>>>>Stephen Equipment Company
>>>>PO Box 709
>>>>Franktown, CO 80116
>>>>303-663-5246
>>>>303-468-0377 FAX
>>>>
>>>>On Mon Jan 24 14:44 , Steve Treimer steelerhawk at yahoo.com> sent:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My pleasure, kind of like a vacation and kid-in-candy-store scenario
>>>>>for me.  I also love numbers and don't mind the hour or so it takes to
>>>>>whip up a page.  Unfortunately, it takes a half hour to upload the 12
>>>>>or so fairly small pics (~70kb in size each) to the web site from my
>>>>>home 26.4 kbps connection.  Ahhhh, but my loves the country, slow ISP
>>>>>and delayed ATIS posts and ALL!
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>--- Mitchell Daly md31043 at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's quite a bit of work that you put into the pictures.  I thank
>>>>>>you for sharing your work.  I have taken the liberty of sharing the
>>>>>>link with some of my friends in the Maryland Two-Cylinder Club to
>>>>>>give them an idea of prices and condition in other areas of the
>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mitch Daly
>>>>>>md31043 at msn.commd31043@msn.com','','','')">md31043 at msn.com>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: Steve
>>
>>Treimersteelerhawk at yahoo.com','','','')">steelerhawk at yahoo.com> 
>>
>>>>>> To: Antique John Deere mailing
>>>>>>listantique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-joh
> 
> ndeere at lists.antique-
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>>>>tractor.com> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AJD] Peters sale, plainfield iowa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Went to a sale yesterday, thought you might like pics and prices,
>>>>>>sorry
>>>>>> camera died on the '55 50 with PS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.iowatelecom.net/~treimer/tractors_files/peters_sale.htm>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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