[AT] O/T Meyers or Western plow

[crawler]

Mike i ran fishers and we had a good dealer but he is long gone and there is
no local support for them. Also in earlier years i ran 1/2 tons and the
fisher was just way to heavy, meyer was too light and western just right.
Most guys around here started buying 1 tons to put fishers on and yes other
then being too heavy for most trucks they are a excellent plow.  ED
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Reggie" <mrreg_99 at hotmail.com>
To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 4:44 AM
Subject: RE: [AT] O/T Meyers or Western plow


>
>   Hello Richard, and list
>
>   Though I've been a member of the list since the fall of 1999, and I
enjoy
> reading the list every day, I don't post too often, however I do try to
> participate when I have some information to contribute, I do believe this
is
> one of those times. I have been plowing and doing snow removal
commercially
> for over 25 years, over that time I have had quite a few different brands
of
> plows attached to all the different brands of trucks, and as you will have
> different opinions on truck brands, so will you on brands of plows and
> everything else[maybe even brands of antique tractors] however, I have in
> the last ten or so years realized there is only one brand of snowplow, and
> it is the Fisher. I could no longer even consider purchasing any other
> brand, case in point, when I bought the truck I am currently using in
1997,
> the dealer had about a half dozen of the truck I wanted, but they all had
> the Meyer brand plows on them, I explained to the salesman that we could
> still make the deal on the new truck, however he would have to switch the
> new meyer plow to my trade in and put my well worn Fisher on the new
truck,
> both he and his manager could not believe this, but after a short time
were
> able to get the truck in and have the meyer plow switched over for a
Fisher
> and we made the deal on the new truck. I hate to be be the descending vote
> against the Meyer and Western, but I just haven't seen a lot of service
> delivered from either one of these plows.
> I mean no offense to anyone, however, I believe the Meyer should actually
> come with one of those warning stickers that seem to get plastered onto
> almost everything except maybe bagged feathers, but this one should read
> "DO NOT EXPOSE TO SNOW FOR MORE THAN MAYBE AN HOUR OR SO, AS EXTREME
> FRUSTRATION WILL OCCUR".
>
> The Western is not a bad plow, but that is precisely it, it's not bad, it,
> like the Meyer and many others it still uses regular vertical type
> tensioning springs and allow [or more so, promote] the whole blade folding
> foward and remaining that way during the foward push which makes it not
> float as is ideal, but make it go "light" to the point you actually can
not
> feel it and the load, most of which it's dumped and you have now driven
> over.
>
>   The Diamond, when this plow first hit the market, I quiclkly bought one,
> the reason being it was everything I liked in a plow and none of the stuff
I
> didn't. I'll explain what I mean..........
>
>   When The company that now owns both Fisher and Western bought these
> companies, Fisher put a few stipulations on their selling, the main one
> being that the new company would not change the design of the actual
> Speedcast snowplow, and that it will not be made in an electric over
> hydraulic design. Unfortunately due to the motor vehicle regulations just
a
> few short years later, it was mandated that the front headgear for
snowplows
> could no longer remain on the vehicle year round, and so the unimount
> design[also a Fisher design and innovation years ahead of everyone else]
> became the standard for all plows.
> When the actual sale took place, a few of the engineers and key people
from
> Fisher left the company and formed their own company, they called it
> Diamond, they made and marked their own plow with the proven Fisher style
> torsion spring trip-edge design, full chasis mounted headgear, and the
best
> part, the actual Fisher engine driven full hydraulic pump and joystick
> controls, and because it was new the price was quite a few hundred dollars
> less than what was now the actual placarded Fisher. Boy was I happy, I
used
> that plow troublefree until I sold the truck. In the interim, the original
> Diamond company was having all kinds of growing pains and did not have the
> capital to make the move over to the now mandatory minute-mount design,
and
> was ripe for the picking, Meyer quickly sucked them up and incorporated
it's
> own electric-over pump and controls, which as far as I know is where it is
> at today.
>
>   Sorry Cecil, but I think that is the weak link on your Diamond, the
Meyer
> controls.
>
>   The Fishers have been, for the whole time they have been offering an
> electric over hydraulic control, been using the Western pump and switches
> which I must say have proven very reliable, I was and have been since the
> very first time I tried it very happy when I hit that angle switch with a
> full blade of snow, and the elect/hyd pump actually moved it.  I can
> remember when the Fisher Speedcast was the  ONLY  plow on the market,
> hydraulic or otherwise that could do this.
>
>   Sorry if this sounds like a rant or a sales pitch for the Fisher, it's
not
> meant to be, just my opinion and my personal experiences, I hope it will
be
> of help.
>
>    Pleased to be participating ................ Mike
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Richard Strobel" <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
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> Subject: [AT] O/T Meyers or Western plow
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:25:47 -0700
>
>    Howdy all;
> Need some mad money for this ole iron addiction.  Bought me a fairly nice
> '69 Toyota Landcruiser and now need a snow plow and then we'll go to work.
> Meyers and Western are probably the most popular here in the NW.
>
> Anyone got any pro's and con's on either?
>
> Sorry for the off topic post, but dern it, I want it all!!
>
> TIA
> RickinMt.
>
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