[AJD] Delayed posts

Frank gremaux at tein.net
Fri Jan 21 06:59:34 PST 2005


ok now I have an opinion:

it is slower than ever..........and for what reason do I get answers before 
the question?
and it should not be blamed on spam filters because it is not consistent 
with what they do......!!


Frank
gremaux at tein.net
Central Montana
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <gremaux at tein.net>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [AJD] Delayed posts


> ok then .....
> compare what it is today ti what it was years ago?
>
> no opinion yet......
>
>
> Frank
> gremaux at tein.net
> Central Montana
> http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at atis.net>
> To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re[2]: [AJD] Delayed posts
>
>
>> Geez, you are comparing TWO DIFFERENT technologies.  Compare apples to
>> apples before run your mouth.   My bulletin board posts instantly too.
>>
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>> Owner, ATIS
>> Plow the Net!
>> http://www.atis.net
>>
>> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>>
>> On 1/20/2005 at 1:21 AM Dean VP wrote:
>>
>>>For those of you who think that delayed posts are the norm and have to be
>>>lived with, I suggest you go to www.ytmag.com and post a message. Your
>>>message will be on the board before you can check to see if it has
>>>arrived.
>>>
>>>I have been on ATIS for almost 6 years now but the situation is getting 
>>>to
>>>the point that it is untenable. It is very hard to understand the context
>>>of
>>>a question when answers sometimes arrive before the question does. Nor
>> does
>>>one want to look foolish in answering a question when there have been
>>>several identical answers given before any of them show up for review.
>>>
>>>I have been helped immensely in the past by those who have contributed so
>>>mightily to this list but over time I see them slowly disappearing. I 
>>>have
>>>tried to help those I can when possible and hopefully have helped as much
>>>as
>>>I have been helped. I have met some wonderful people in person who I 
>>>never
>>>would have met had it not been for this list. But....the ATIS list is
>>>nothing more than a tool. If the tool isn't functional any more, a new
>> tool
>>>is needed.
>>>
>>>I must admit I get impatient when things are not going right. And I have
>>>had
>>>to bite my tongue many times over the last few weeks. So I would like to
>>>pass along an old saying my father used to say:
>>>
>>>"If every time you walk through that door you get hit over the head, 
>>>maybe
>>>a
>>>wise thing to do would be to not walk through that door any more."
>>>
>>>Life is too short to have to deal with things that irritate us. I've had
>>>some very good interchanges with several members of this list via private
>>>email. Maybe this is one of the potential solutions. And w/o all the
>> delays
>>>in the messages.
>>>
>>>Sometimes solutions occur when there isn't anyone around to complain 
>>>about
>>>it anymore.
>>>
>>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>>I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
>>>storeroom door
>>>
>>>
>>>www.deerelegacy.com
>>>
>>>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>>Ronald L. Cook
>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:00 PM
>>>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>>Subject: Re: [AJD] Delayed posts
>>>
>>>I just received it at almost 5 PM Central time.  Interesting, isn't it?
>>>  I'm not complaining.  I did receive it and at least this isn't a Yahoo
>>>list.  They are a whole nuther bunch of problems.
>>>
>>>Ron Cook
>>>Salix, IA
>>>
>>>Christopher Lynn wrote:
>>>
>>>> What Guy wrote pretty much summed up the problem I believe.  Over my
>>>> last 11 years of Internet use, email in general has gotten slower due 
>>>> to
>>
>>>> the increase in filtering, and to a degree, the increase in traffic. 
>>>> It
>>
>>>> is not just an ATIS issue, but one that is created with the ISP's as
>>>> well.  Combine the ATIS filtering with the incoming or outgoing
>>>> filtering systems of each ATIS subscriber (of which most are likely
>>>> different), and there is going to be a definite lag time. Sending email
>>>> via an intranet is no longer instantaneous either.
>>>>
>>>> Back in 1995, my messages would sometimes come right back to me after I
>>>> sent them to the main ATIS list.  Other times, responses would come 
>>>> back
>>
>>>> before I got my initial post.  This is the first message I sent to this
>>>> list in a long time, so I'll see how long it takes to show up.
>>>>
>>>> Just my $.02
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guy Fay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it's the general Internet problem of mail getting slower, not
>>>>> just these lists. I do see slower return times on the main ATIS lists
>>>>> than the specific by makes. I also notice that the spam filter I get
>>>>> through my provider seems to have an effect as well- when it lets more
>>>>> spam through, it's faster, but the more it catches, it slows up the
>>>>> rest of the mail.
>>>>> Guy Fay
>>>>>
>>>>> Dee Schuyler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I spoke offline with Dean this morning and he had pretty much
>>>>>> the same thing to add.
>>>>>> I guess I will continue to read the mail for a while but I am about
>>>>>> burned out on posting.
>>>>>> Guess I will see what else is active?
>>>>>> Thanks for your reply  Duane
>>>>>> Dee
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duane Larson"
>>><jdlarson at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>>>>>> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:37 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] Delayed posts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dee,
>>>>>>> I have also raised this issue (perhaps too many times) but nothing
>>>>>>> has been
>>>>>>> done.  Exactly for your reasons I watch but don't participate much
>>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>>> on this list.  Too frustrating.  Spencer (or someone) posted some
>>>>>>> transfer
>>>>>>> times recently but they sure don't seem to apply to most things I
>>>>>>> respond
>>>>>>> to.  If I knew that the problem was on my end I could do something
>>>>>>> about it,
>>>>>>> but I don't know where it is.  The average daily traffic on this
>>>>>>> list seems
>>>>>>> to have decreased in the last 4-5 years as this delay problem has
>>>>>>> gotten
>>>>>>> worse - you are probably right, folks have transferred to the other
>> JD
>>>>>>> discussion forums.
>>>>>>> Duane Larson
>>>>
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