[AJD] DOT regulations, tie downs

[Terry]

Steve,

Here in Nebraska, the DOT guys are mostly wannabe state troopers that get
stuck in carrier enforcement as part of their training, or because they
don't quite measure up.  Most of them think they have to prove something,
and will pull you over and go out of their way to write you up for
something.  If you try to get any info on the regs, they will almost never
give you a straight answer, and if you call the carrier enforcement division
with a question, you get refered to 3 or 4 different people, and they all
give you a different answer.  Ever since they started letting the carrier
enforcement officers carry guns a few years ago, they've been a real hoot to
deal with around here.

Terry



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Treimer [mailto:steelerhawk at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:17 AM
To: Antique John Deere mailing list
Subject: [AJD] DOT regulations, tie downs


Frank,
I love your attitude and I think you're exactly right.  I've heard from
more than one person that you're basically at the mercy of the DOT guys
if they decide you're the one they want to pull over.  They're going to
have SOMETHING to say if they take the effort and time to pull you
over.
Last year my wife talked with Sgt. Reinhart of the Iowa DOT and he
pretty much says what you said, verbatim.  He blew off a few of our
local club members' big worries about battery backup braking
capabilities, chain binders, 4 corners, middle tie downs, safety
striping.  His basic explanation was that for PERSONAL, in-state use
and travel, you need a chain front and back, both chains must equal or
exceed the load and each chain must have a binder.  But I appreciated
his summary: "Basically if we feel you're not safe on the road or using
common sense we're going to write you up for something."
But that was a year ago, everyone needs more funding this year.
Steve

--- Frank <gremaux at tein.net> wrote:

> I don't listen to lectures.......I tell them if they are going to see
> me in 
> court the write it up (they won't because they know better)other wise
> get 
> out of my way as I have work to do....
> 
> 
> you use one chain and two binders and loop in the middle......it is 
> acceptable....if they do not believe then threaten to cut the 
> loop.........ah ha! 2 chains now exist......
> 
> Frank
> gremaux at tein.net
> Central Montana
> http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ed Allandar" <eallandar at rohrerbus.com>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:01 AM
> Subject: RE: [AJD] Weird GP Wheels? Now Tractor Tie Down
> 
> 
> > My understanding is it must be individual binders. I was lectured
> about
> > using one chain by the Pa. State Police.
> >
> > Ed Allandar
> > Vice President
> > Rohrer Bus
> > P.O. Box 100 - 1515 State Road
> > Duncannon, PA 17020-0100
> > 717.957.5114 Direct
> > 717.418.4401 Cell
> > 1-800-735-6700 x223 Toll free
> > 717.957.4884 (fax)
> > eallandar at rohrerbus.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On
> Behalf Of
> > rick
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:31 PM
> > To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [AJD] Weird GP Wheels? Now Tractor Tie Down
> >
> >
> > Does the tractor need to have 4 individual chains and 4
> binders.....or can
> > you use 2 chains and 4 binders(one on each corner)?....Rick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Allandar" <eallandar at rohrerbus.com>
> > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:05 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AJD] Weird GP Wheels? Now Tractor Tie Down
> >
> >
> >> I deal with the Sate Police here in Pennsylvania on a regular
> basis, the
> >> Motor Carrier Enforcement guys say GVW combination of the ENTIRE
> rig is
> > the
> >> determining factor. 4 corner tie down is the rule here!
> >>
> >> Ed Allandar
> >> Vice President
> >> Rohrer Bus
> >> P.O. Box 100 - 1515 State Road
> >> Duncannon, PA 17020-0100
> >> 717.957.5114 Direct
> >> 717.418.4401 Cell
> >> 1-800-735-6700 x223 Toll free
> >> 717.957.4884 (fax)
> >> eallandar at rohrerbus.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On
> Behalf Of
> >> Mitchell Daly
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:10 AM
> >> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [AJD] Weird GP Wheels? Now Tractor Tie Down
> >>
> >>
> >> Frank,
> >>
> >> Is it the load you're carrying or the GVW of the whole unit -
> truck,
> > trailer
> >> and load that the 10k is based on? I have a client who is a Lt.
> with the
> >> Maryland State Police in the Commercial Vehicle Inspection and he
> has led
> > me
> >> to believe that it is the GVW of the whole unit.
> >>
> >> Mitch Daly
> >> md31043 at msn.com<mailto:md31043 at msn.com>
> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>   From: Frank<mailto:gremaux at tein.net>
> >>   To: Antique John Deere mailing
> >> list<mailto:antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> >>   Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:06 PM
> >>   Subject: Re: [AJD] Weird GP Wheels? Now Tractor Tie Down
> >>
> >>
> >>   only if the tractor weights over 10000 pounds...
> >>   Federal Law.....you can look it up on the Federal DOT rules
> online
> >>   Frank
> >>   gremaux at tein.net<mailto:gremaux at tein.net>
> >>   Central Montana
> >>
> >>
> >
>
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html<http://www.angelfire.com/mt/d
> >> eeregp/index.html>
> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>   From: "Steve Barr"
> >> <stevebarr at ameritech.net<mailto:stevebarr at ameritech.net>>
> >>   To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> >>
> >>
> >
>
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com<mailto:antique-johndeere at lists.
> >> antique-tractor.com>>
> >>   Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:37 AM
> >>   Subject: Re: [AJD] Weird GP Wheels? Now Tractor Tie Down
> >>
> >>
> >>   >
> >>   > I noticed that it appears that this person has the tractor
> tied down
> > to
> >>   > the trailer with 4 independent chains/binders.  I had heard
> somewhere
> >> that
> >>   > this is a new federal law, but have yet to find a source
> confirming
> > it.
> >>   > Does anyone have any information about this???  I would like
> to find
> >> out.
> >>   >
> >>   > Thanks
> >>   >
> >>   > Steve
> >>   >
> >>   > ---
> >>   > On Mon Jan 17  1:45 , 'Brandon Knapp'
> >> <lneuwirth at eriecoast.com<mailto:lneuwirth at eriecoast.com>> sent:
> >>   >
> >>   > I just happened to see this GP on Ebay. I'm not interested in
> buying,
> >> but
> >>   > the rear wheels look interesting:
> >>   >
> >>   >
> >>
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll\?ViewItem&item=3866483333<http://cgi.eb
> >> ay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll/?ViewItem&item=3866483333>
> >>   >
> >>   > Does anybody know anything about them? Factory or rig job?
> Seems most
> >>   > likely to be a rig job to me, buy you never know?
> >>   >
> >>   > Thanks,
> >>   > Brandon
> >>   >
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