[AT] Just another day at the office? (OT)
charlie hill
chill8 at cox.net
Tue Feb 8 10:55:16 PST 2005
Cecil,
People go into ketosis when they are on too strict a diet and their body is
burning a lot of fat to stay alive. What do you think caused it in your
sheep. I know you feed them so I'm sure it wasn't missed meal collic.
Charlie
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> Just thought you all might be interested in a typical day here. For the
> tractor content, I use several antiques to bale hay for these sheep the
> coyotes
> eat.... Anybody with sheep and has some suggestions, I am open to
> anything.
> Still alive this morning, just no eating......
>
>
> Well, the Saga continues as the old western used to say... I found my
> largest ewe (150 + lbs), Minnie, named because she has tiny mouse ears,
> laying in
> the barn with the 2 new mamas yesterday afternoon about 3 pm. Since we
> have
> had rain and drizzle the fields and pastures are mud. The poor girls
> grunt
> with every step making their way around. I
>
> So I jujst figured she decided to rest. She did not look like she was
> trying to lamb yet. Not going to be long. I was working getting some
> stuff
> straightened around with the other two, and was stepping over her and
> generally
> within 6 inches of her and she never moved. Even petted her and she did
> not
> move.. I just thought she was trusting me like a lot of the others do..
>
> Well I thought I better check on the girls about 10pm. When I stepped
> into
> the barn, it smelled like acetone. Minnie was panting like a dog and
> having
> trouble breathing. I could hear gurgling. First thought was Ketosis, as
> I
> hit myself in the back of the head, I should have seen this coming. Went
> thru
> this a year ago with the one who just had triplets, or was it 2 years
> ago?
> Ok, looks like bloat too. Head over to the shop refrig to find the
> Propylene
> glycol. No glycol. RV antifreeze???? Nope, it has rust inhibitors in
> it,
> Darn. Drank a coke just to keep me going, it was bedtime.... Head to
> the
> house for reinforcements. Ketosis is also called acidosis. I knew the
> lining
> of her stomach is really sore from the acidosis, and she has to have
> something for the bloat.
> SO her is the "cocktail" I concocted from household kitdchen cabinets.
>
> About 15 Lactinex tablets to aid digestion.
> About another 15 acidophilis pills to also aid degestion.
> Some digestive enzyme from an herbal store.
> About 1/8 teaspoon of GREEN Palmolive liquid.
>
> I use a mortar and pestle to grind the tablets, then mix in about 1/2 cup
> of
> water with the soap. The soap causes it all to dissolve and it is a
> great
> surfactant for the frothy bloat. Put this in a pint bottle that came in
> an
> e-bay buy of 50 irrigation syringe kits. while I was in the shop I got 2
> of
> the kits out, nice and sterile....
>
> Ok, that will take dcare of the bloat, now what for the ketosis. Simple
> sugars is needed. Perhaps Corn syrup?? None in the cabinet. Ahhhhhh!
> Griffins Waffle syrup... Tastes good going down and coming up too....
> When you
> extract the stomach tube, if there is anything that will burn on it, it
> burns
> all the way back. Try Propylene glycol sometime, it burns!. It is also
> the
> sweetner for DR. Pepper. If I would have had a bottle of it I would have
> used
> that... I poured about 1/2 cup of syrup in a coffee cup, added about 1/4
> cup
> of water and nuked it for about 30 sec. Added some syrup to cool it a
> little
> and add some thickener so I had about a cup of syrup water that was about
> body temp. The old girl did not need to drop her core temp due to a
> treatment.
>
> Got the 3/8 in 6 ft vinyl tube that I have had hanging from one end, (to
> straighten it out) and measured from the nose to the flank. Made a mark
> on the
> hose with a sharpie marker, This ensures I get it in the stomach and not
> the lung, the end of the lung is about half this distance. Since I had
> to do
> all this myself, I have to be prepared ( yeah right, I forgot the water
> syringe, and had to hold the ewe, hose, and suck water from the watering
> bucket
> into another syringe all at the same time). Got Minnie backed into a
> corner,
> wrapped my left arm( the one with the torn tendon, ulner nerve damage,
> and the
> one that is going thru a nerve test tomorrow) around her neck and held
> her
> mouth with my left hand. Started the tube from the right side of the
> mouth
> (passenger side, or curb side if you are an RVer) and headed across the
> tongue
> to the left side. If you feel down the left side of the throat, you can
> feel
> the hose going down. She had a bit of a cud in there and after a couple
> of
> tries, that came out. She had held this for a long time. Another
> indication
> of the bloat. Started the hose down as she is resisting and grinding
> her
> teeth. But as she chews, she also swallows. BINGO! hit the Gut! MAN
> Who Cut
> the Cheese??? That hose had some of the most foul smells eminating,
> worse
> than the trip past the waste treatment we make every day....About 10
> seconds
> after hitting the jackpot, I am holding a smaller ewe by at least 6
> inches.
> Now she really feels like resisting. However, with 325 lbs on my side, I
> am
> not easily moved. Attach the acidophilus etc syringe, empty, attach the
> syrup, empty, fill another syrup, empty, fill another acidophilus, empty,
> refill
> a syringe with water while holding, oh well I already told that one..
> empty.....
>
> Inject a shot of B-12, Wash out the syringes and tube. Sit down on a 5
> gallon redneck chair, and observe the patient. Still alive, breathing
> (though
> rapidly), moving. What I did will take about 2 to 6 hours to detect any
> change. She can rest without my help, and it is now 11:30pm looks like
> I got a
> breakfast date!!
>
> Back in the house, the wife asks if I had any problems, "Nope, everything
> went according to plan".
>
> This morning, she is breathing about 60/minute, and calm. So, I made a
> trip
> to my vet supply and got a gallon of Propylene and gave her 120cc 2 times
> today. Got a new bottle of b-12 also.
>
> As of 6pm, she is moving around and has walked qute a bit around the lot,
> just has not ate anything yet. She acts interested, just not hungry...
>
> In the morning we will know more. The waiting is the worst part.
>
> I also got a sack of corn to feed all the pregnant ewes with to add some
> concentrated nutrition to prevent Ketosis....
>
> Maybe this will be interesting to some of you..
>
> Cecil
> Piedmont, OK
>
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