[AT] Acrylic enamel paint hardner????

[Howard R. Weeks]

It sets on the shelf next to the enamel paint at Tractor Supply.

Howard Weeks
Harlem, GA




----- Original Message -----
From: "charlie hill" <chill8 at cox.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Acrylic enamel paint hardner????


Here is what makes me interested in this topic.   I've read enough accounts
from folks on the list that I'm certain that using hardner with plain old
enamel paint can be done.  The knowledge of this list is testiment to that.
However, I've been involved with industrial painting projects for over 20
years.  I've used all kinds of exotic epoxies, urethanes, acrylics, vinyls,
etc. and I've never seen or heard of (except on this list) anyone using
hardner with an enamel.

When I first saw it mentioned on the list I asked a friend/business partner
who has been and industrial painter since he got out of high school in the
early 60's and now owns his own company.
He had never heard of anyone doing it.  I asked one of the industrial reps
for ICI Devoe coatings and he had never heard of it.

All of this just seems strange to me.  It leads me to believe that somewhere
out in the heartland someone just decided to try it and lo and behold it
worked.

I sure would like to know how.  I have to agree with one of the other posts.
The hardner is probably in fact a plastic and the enamel paint just becomes
the colorant and body of the home made epoxy that results from the mixture.
I'd be interested to see some of this paint tested along side other 2
component paints to see how it holds up in terms of gloss retention and film
degredation.

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a hardener specifically for
enamel paint and comes as a kit?

Charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at atis.net>
To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Acrylic enamel paint hardner????


> I'll tell you what I know from experience:
>
> 1 - It is clear
> 2 - It will add gloss to the finished paint(so if you are looking for semi
> gloss look, don't start with a semi-glass paint.  You'll end up with
> something close to high gloss.  Start with a semi gloss and add a touch of
> flattening paint first)
> 3 - It will tack off in about the same time but final cure will be sooner
>
> Now I will tell you what I am guessing:
>
> I have been told it a polyurethane based catalyst, so I presume a chemical
> reaction and not just a component in the paint that dries hard.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Spencer Yost
> Owner, ATIS
> Plow the Net!
> http://www.atis.net
>
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> On 2/4/2005 at 2:40 AM John Wilkens wrote:
>
>>I found some fast dry acrylic equipment enamel that I like real well--and
>>at a great price.  It's made by Nason.  The paint dealer (Baxter Auto)
>>said
>>any acrylic enamel paint hardner would work fine with it.  Question is,
>>how
>>does the hardner work?  Is it just a clear liquid that mixes with the
>>paint
>>and dries a lot harder, or does it somehow chemically react with the paint
>
>>to make it cure to a harder finish---something like two-part epoxy
>>paint?  I've asked this question at the local paint shops, and even to
>>some
>>auto paint guys but they never seem to be able to answer this
>>question.  All suggestions will be most welcome!   John W. ...still
>>striving for something better than the usual orange peel paint job!
>>
>>                    In the wide-open spaces of NE Oregon
>>
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