How about a Ebay pool? WE could list interesting items and see how close we get to the final sales price? Things I am watching for sale price (other words things way outside my budget right now) Item number: 7570190614 1 owner 60 orchard in full dress. $15000 Item number: 7569949058 60/70 weights 850 Item number: 7570325452 Jd pumpjack 190 Dennis