[atis] Re: [AT] OT: wheel packer question

[Stuart Harner]

OK, that is one I had never heard of before.  We had talked about filling 
the case with grease or adding something like STP to the 80/90 to make it 
less likely to drip off the chain.

Another good suggestion.  Thanks, I will check with our bulk dealer next 
week.

Stuart



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From: "CRAWLER HEAVEN" <edc at crawlerheaven.com>
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Subject: [atis] Re: [AT] OT: wheel packer question


> Stuart, Instead of gear oil you might try Corn Head Grease It turns to
> liquid with heat but turns back to a jelly when cooled,it would so down 
> the
> leaking and it sticks and lubes well in a cavaity not like regular grease. 
> I
> use it in all my bottom rollers and front idlers i get mine from John 
> Deere
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stuart Harner" <sharner at starband.net>
> To: "atis" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 12:05 PM
> Subject: [AT] OT: wheel packer question
>
>
> Since things seem a little slow for tractor discussion, I will ask for 
> some
> help that is sort of tractor related.
>
> I work for the County road dept. in the summer and we have an old wheel
> packer that needs some repairs.
>
> This unit has four tires on the front axle and six in the back.  There is 
> a
> large "tub" that is filled with gravel for weight.  On the sides are
> placards saying "Ferguson".  The data plate on the front says made by 
> Shovel
> Supply, Dallas TX.  Unfortunately, someone pushed this packer from the 
> front
> and wiped the model and serial numbers from the plate.  We even removed it
> to see if we could read the stampings from the back, but there were rocks
> between the plate and the frame so the back was damaged too.
>
> The engine and drive train is an Oliver tractor, probably a 770 or 880.
> There is an Oliver data plate on it.
>
> The rear drive wheels are run by large roller chains that come down from 
> the
> axles of the Oliver.  Of the 6 wheels on the back, the two outer ones on
> each side are actually drive wheels that are connected to the chain case.
> The center two wheels are just "tag" axles.
>
> The lower unit of the drive wheel holds the axle, bearings and chain
> sprocket.  They are attached to the chain case with bronze bushings that
> allow the lower unit to pivot slightly from side to side.  I suspect that
> this is to let one tire ride up over a bump without putting all the weight
> on that tire.
>
> The lower unit is filled to the axle level with 80/90 grease that also 
> lubes
> the chain and sprockets.  There is a seal between the lower unit and the
> upper chain case.  This seal has to compress and expand to accommodate the
> rocking from side to side that the lower unit does.  On our machine, the
> seals are shot and all the grease runs out if you are on any kind of a 
> side
> slope.  We don't know if the seals are original or if someone has 
> improvised
> in the past.  In any case, the current seals look like they were poured in
> place.  It is a rubbery compound (not RTV) but you can definitely see the
> beads that were laid out.
>
>>From the research I was able to do on the web, it looks like this was a
> 10-12 ton packer probably built in the mid to late '60's.  I have not been
> able to find any source for parts or manuals.  If anyone has any 
> information
> that they can provide I would appreciate it.  Even ideas on how to make a
> new seal for the lower unit.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stuart
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