[AJD] JD nozzle tool

greg at theoldtractorcompany.com greg at theoldtractorcompany.com
Sat Dec 24 22:52:10 PST 2005


Duane
Yes, he made the threads as original or at least I told him to and it works fine! I recall he 
complained about the threads so I think they were right. I can't say for 100% though. It is a 
slide hammer albeit a mighty small one!

Duane, the crooked bent nozzle pusher you mentioned is interesting as just this past month I 
was reading an old special tool ad and I saw that listed. A light went off in my head (an all 
too infrequent event anymore I'm afraid to say) and off I went to what we call our tool room.
Several months ago I had seen something laying tossed aside on the tool room floor and since we 
rarely put anything up it was still laying there. It was the bent nozzle removal tool. So it 
now occupies a place of honor in my desk drawer. Tough to use it I think just looking at it.

Greg



Greg Stephen
The Old Tractor Company
Stephen Equipment Company
PO Box 709
Franktown, CO 80116
303-663-5246
303-468-0377 FAX<<--GREAT WAY TO REACH ME!

On Sat Dec 24 22:43 , 'Dean VP' <deanvp at att.net> sent:

>Duane:
>
>I've not seen that one. I have a bunch of the old OTC tools here but have
>not yet found the correct era catalog that lists them all
>
>Dean A. Van Peursem
>Snohomish, WA 98290
>
>Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-johndeere-
bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>Duane Larson
>Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:45 PM
>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>Subject: Re: [AJD] JD nozzle tool
>
>Dean,
>The JD80 nozzle puller was built by Owatonna Tool Company (OTC) and had a (I
>
>think) patented tapered thread which screwed into the bottom of the nozzle. 
>The other end of the puller was a slide hammer used to "knock" the nozzle 
>out.  The OTC thread was the key - it was not a symmetric thread like a bolt
>
>thread.  Rather, the thread reminds me of how we used to draw a Christmas 
>tree in grade school.  When using the slide hammer the back side of the 
>threads dug into the brass.  Copies have been made which use a normal, 
>tapered thread and they don't work at all.  I believe Rob Detwiler was 
>making the correct version at one time, so if Greg doesn't have any left 
>those interested might try Rob.
>
>I'm not aware of any tool JD provided which used a tap and whatever to pull 
>the nozzle.  For a while they had a bent rod which went in through the neck 
>into the top of the nozzle and was designed to push down on the top of the 
>nozzle.  Needless to say that was quickly recognized as a disaster.
>Duane Larson
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Dean VP" deanvp at att.net>
>To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'" 
>antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 5:19 PM
>Subject: RE: [AJD] JD nozzle tool
>
>
>> Brandon:
>>
>> No, it is not a slide hammer. It is a nozzle puller using a threaded screw
>> requiring the opening in the nozzle to be taped. A float tool is a gauge
>> used to measure and set float height.
>>
>> Dean A. Van Peursem
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>
>> www.deerelegacy.com
>>
>> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-johndeere-
bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>> Brandon Knapp
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 11:06 AM
>> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] JD nozzle tool
>>
>> The nozzle tool is basically a slide hammer right? What is a Float tool?
>>
>> Brandon
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: greg at theoldtractorcompany.com>
>> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
>> antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 11:45 AM
>> Subject: RE: [AJD] JD nozzle tool
>>
>>
>>> Chris
>>> Years ago, I reproduced some of the nozzle and the float tools. (after I
>>> broke our original!)
>>> Let me see if I have any left
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Stephen
>>> The Old Tractor Company
>>> Stephen Equipment Company
>>> PO Box 709
>>> Franktown, CO 80116
>>> 303-663-5246
>>> 303-468-0377 FAX
>>>
>>> On Fri Dec 23 23:08 , Chris C jdnutinwa at yahoo.com> sent:
>>>
>>>>I would like both.  I am looking to replace my tap extractor that seems 
>>>>to
>>
>>>>have disappeared,
>>> and I would love to come up with an original JD nozzle tool.
>>>>
>>>>              Chris
>>>>
>>>>Dean VP deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>>>  Chris:
>>>>
>>>>Ok, now you legitimately have me confused. Are you looking for a Tap
>>>>Extractor or a Nozzle Extractor?
>>>>
>>>>Dean A. Van Peursem
>>>>Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>>
>>>>Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>>>
>>>>www.deerelegacy.com
>>>>
>>>>http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-
>j
>> ohndeere-
>>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>Chris C
>>>>Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:09 PM
>>>>To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>>>>Subject: RE: [AJD] Tap Extractor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dean,
>>>>
>>>>The tap is broken, and the nozzle is junk, don't
>>>>need either, just want to have a tap extractor again.
>>>>They are usually only good for a use or two. I went
>>>>after this one with a reverse 1/4" drill bit, I got
>>>>the nozzle to spin the the casting and then it was
>>>>mine.
>>>>
>>>>I will order a new nozzle from Burrey Carb
>>>>Service. I have 4 other carbs to go through, and as
>>>>a mechanic they thread thing works, but as a
>>>>collector I want the correct tool. Wven if I just
>>>>paint it green and put it on a shelf.. (sorry, I have
>>>>been reading Greg's book on Two Cylinder Collectibles,
>>>>I had to paraphrase there)
>>>>
>>>>I use the #10 on B carbs and the likes, but
>>>>1/4-20 works better on the A carbs.
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>--- Dean VP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chris:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm easy to confuse so bear with me. You got the tap
>>>>> out of the nozzle but
>>>>> the nozzle is now destroyed. Shouldn't you be
>>>>> looking first for a
>>>>> replacement nozzle rather than an extractor? Or are
>>>>> you now going to try to
>>>>> get the replacement nozzle out of the other
>>>>> carburetor and need a nozzle
>>>>> extractor to retrieve it?
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm not totally FUBAR, all you need to do is take
>>>>> an appropriate length
>>>>> and thickness of bar stock, drill a clearance hole
>>>>> in it for a #10 screw,
>>>>> tap the nozzle with #10 threads and an appropriate
>>>>> length #10 screw will get
>>>>> the nozzle out.
>>>>>
>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dean A. Van Peursem
>>>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>>>
>>>>> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>>>>
>>>>> www.deerelegacy.com
>>>>>
>>>>> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From:
>>>>> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>
>>>>[antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com','','','')">antique-
>j
>> ohndeere-
>>> bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
>>>>> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Chris C
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:51 PM
>>>>> To: ATIS LIST
>>>>> Subject: [AJD] Tap Extractor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was on a roll last night. I bought a DLTX-19
>>>>> for my AR on Ebay, the guy didn't describe it very
>>>>> well, said it was a DLTX-10 but clearly wasn't, so
>>>>> I
>>>>> bought it for what I thought was a grat price.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was tapping the brass nozzle to pull it out
>>>>> when the phone rang.. Set the carb on the bech..
>>>>> get
>>>>> phone.. carb falls to floor, breaks tap on inside
>>>>> nozzle..
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to own a tap extractor, but alas it
>>>>> could
>>>>> not be found. Three parts stores and one hardware
>>>>> store later, everyone knew what i wanted, nobody
>>>>> had
>>>>> it.. I did manage to get the nozzle out, it is
>>>>> destroyed now however. The rest of the carb is
>>>>> great,
>>>>> all the passage ways are clear.. Much better than
>>>>> the carb that came with the tractor.. It looked like
>>>>> a
>>>>> ball of mud, inside and out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have an extra nozzle tool that Deere
>>>>> used
>>>>> to sell for removing these nozzles?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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