[AT] AC-170 Diesel starts in the cold

[Jason DeJoode]

Do I understand you correctly that the crack goes from frost plug to frost 
plug?

Jason



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Bruce" <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] AC-170 Diesel starts in the cold


> And, of course, all of us AC fans are orange with envy.
>
> David
> NW NC
>
> charlie hill wrote:
>
>> You did good Carl!!!
>>
>> Charlie
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 3:46 PM
>> Subject: [AT] AC-170 Diesel starts in the cold
>>
>>
>>> Just a note to everyone on the list that commented on this tractor not 
>>> starting last week to let you know it has a new home.   :-)
>>> The story of the Jr. salesman not having the fuel on was apparently 
>>> true, it started without ether or being plugged-in weather that was 
>>> either 21 or 25 F (dealers temperature vs. our car's gauge).  I can't 
>>> say it started super easy, but I thought quite reasonable compared to 
>>> some engines I have had the "pleasure" to be around.  It  fired in short 
>>> order and then would quickly start to increase RPMs to the point where 
>>> the mechanic would pull the throttle back to keep the speed down - it 
>>> would then quit.  It did this about 5 times and I suggested that he 
>>> slowly move the throttle back to a less vigorous idle and it then kept 
>>> running.  The exhaust cleared in a short time, seemed under 5 
>>> minutes.and then ran very clean and clear until load or acceleration was 
>>> applied.  No knocking, clanging or strange sounds.  Rode it around 
>>> enough to check out the tranny and power director. Power director snaps 
>>> into both ranges, but seems "soft" enough to require some adjusting next 
>>> winter.  Clutch does not engage until almost all pedal is used, don't 
>>> know if it will still adjust or needs to be replaced - seems good to go 
>>> until next winter at least.  Rubber is solid, at least 50% thread and no 
>>> weather checks.  Its big too, 18.4-28 , Our D-17 had 16.9".  Even has a 
>>> set of wheel weights.
>>> The crack in the block is between two frost plugs and actually quite 
>>> easy to get to once the starter is removed.  Should be a straight 
>>> forward job for the lock and stitch repair system.  I will have to move 
>>> some stuff around in the barn this weekend to make room for it  - should 
>>> be delivered next week.
>>> I had been looking for a Series IV D-17, but this seemed so much like 
>>> one I thought that it would do just fine.  I am surprised at how "$ 
>>> reasonable" that engine kits and the like are for this Perkins engine. 
>>> I think the parts for the D-14's engines are at least 50% higher, as are 
>>> those for the similar sized Allis built gas and diesels.  Looks like it 
>>> pays to use a high production volume engine.
>>> This has a 3 point hitch, original top link and two remote valves.  I 
>>> was at an auction last summer and picked up a loader for a 170 because I 
>>> thought that it would fit a D-14.  Talk about luck - no more luck for me 
>>> for several years!  This will probably let me sell one of the D-14s (I'm 
>>> not sure if I used that with the wife or not)!
>>> Very much noticed one other thing, - there is a big difference between a 
>>> 36 HP machine and a 56 HP machine!  I had forgotten the feel of that 
>>> much power.  I negotiated a price that. while it included delivery, is 
>>> "as is". The manager is not happy with the salesman for not spotting the 
>>> crack and the salesman is not happy with the previous owner for not 
>>> pointing it out. Manager wanted it out before the end of the year - that 
>>> was clear and said this way he was wholesaling it.  I am very 
>>> comfortable with it as it is the third tractor of that general design I 
>>> have bought.  This hopefully gives me quite a bit of knowledge about 
>>> them and what to look for.  Time will tell if I really know what I am 
>>> doing.
>>> Carl Gogol
>>> Manlius, NY
>>> AC 170 D
>>> (2) AC D-14, AC 914H
>>> Simplicity 3112 & 7116
>>> Kubota F-2400
>>>
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