[AT] AC-170 Diesel starts in the cold

[David Bruce]

And, of course, all of us AC fans are orange with envy.

David
NW NC

charlie hill wrote:

> You did good Carl!!!
>
> Charlie
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
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> Subject: [AT] AC-170 Diesel starts in the cold
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>> Just a note to everyone on the list that commented on this tractor 
>> not starting last week to let you know it has a new home.   :-)
>> The story of the Jr. salesman not having the fuel on was apparently 
>> true, it started without ether or being plugged-in weather that was 
>> either 21 or 25 F (dealers temperature vs. our car's gauge).  I can't 
>> say it started super easy, but I thought quite reasonable compared to 
>> some engines I have had the "pleasure" to be around.  It  fired in 
>> short order and then would quickly start to increase RPMs to the 
>> point where the mechanic would pull the throttle back to keep the 
>> speed down - it would then quit.  It did this about 5 times and I 
>> suggested that he slowly move the throttle back to a less vigorous 
>> idle and it then kept running.  The exhaust cleared in a short time, 
>> seemed under 5 minutes.and then ran very clean and clear until load 
>> or acceleration was applied.  No knocking, clanging or strange 
>> sounds.  Rode it around enough to check out the tranny and power 
>> director. Power director snaps into both ranges, but seems "soft" 
>> enough to require some adjusting next winter.  Clutch does not engage 
>> until almost all pedal is used, don't know if it will still adjust or 
>> needs to be replaced - seems good to go until next winter at least.  
>> Rubber is solid, at least 50% thread and no weather checks.  Its big 
>> too, 18.4-28 , Our D-17 had 16.9".  Even has a set of wheel weights.
>> The crack in the block is between two frost plugs and actually quite 
>> easy to get to once the starter is removed.  Should be a straight 
>> forward job for the lock and stitch repair system.  I will have to 
>> move some stuff around in the barn this weekend to make room for it  
>> - should be delivered next week.
>> I had been looking for a Series IV D-17, but this seemed so much like 
>> one I thought that it would do just fine.  I am surprised at how "$ 
>> reasonable" that engine kits and the like are for this Perkins 
>> engine.  I think the parts for the D-14's engines are at least 50% 
>> higher, as are those for the similar sized Allis built gas and 
>> diesels.  Looks like it pays to use a high production volume engine.
>> This has a 3 point hitch, original top link and two remote valves.  I 
>> was at an auction last summer and picked up a loader for a 170 
>> because I thought that it would fit a D-14.  Talk about luck - no 
>> more luck for me for several years!  This will probably let me sell 
>> one of the D-14s (I'm not sure if I used that with the wife or not)!
>> Very much noticed one other thing, - there is a big difference 
>> between a 36 HP machine and a 56 HP machine!  I had forgotten the 
>> feel of that much power.  I negotiated a price that. while it 
>> included delivery, is "as is". The manager is not happy with the 
>> salesman for not spotting the crack and the salesman is not happy 
>> with the previous owner for not pointing it out. Manager wanted it 
>> out before the end of the year - that was clear and said this way he 
>> was wholesaling it.  I am very comfortable with it as it is the third 
>> tractor of that general design I have bought.  This hopefully gives 
>> me quite a bit of knowledge about them and what to look for.  Time 
>> will tell if I really know what I am doing.
>> Carl Gogol
>> Manlius, NY
>> AC 170 D
>> (2) AC D-14, AC 914H
>> Simplicity 3112 & 7116
>> Kubota F-2400
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