[AT] AC-170 Diesel starts in the cold

[charlie hill]

You did good Carl!!!

Charlie
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From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 3:46 PM
Subject: [AT] AC-170 Diesel starts in the cold


> Just a note to everyone on the list that commented on this tractor not 
> starting last week to let you know it has a new home.   :-)
> The story of the Jr. salesman not having the fuel on was apparently true, 
> it started without ether or being plugged-in weather that was either 21 or 
> 25 F (dealers temperature vs. our car's gauge).  I can't say it started 
> super easy, but I thought quite reasonable compared to some engines I have 
> had the "pleasure" to be around.  It  fired in short order and then would 
> quickly start to increase RPMs to the point where the mechanic would pull 
> the throttle back to keep the speed down - it would then quit.  It did 
> this about 5 times and I suggested that he slowly move the throttle back 
> to a less vigorous idle and it then kept running.  The exhaust cleared in 
> a short time, seemed under 5 minutes.and then ran very clean and clear 
> until load or acceleration was applied.  No knocking, clanging or strange 
> sounds.  Rode it around enough to check out the tranny and power director. 
> Power director snaps into both ranges, but seems "soft" enough to require 
> some adjusting next winter.  Clutch does not engage until almost all pedal 
> is used, don't know if it will still adjust or needs to be replaced - 
> seems good to go until next winter at least.  Rubber is solid, at least 
> 50% thread and no weather checks.  Its big too, 18.4-28 , Our D-17 had 
> 16.9".  Even has a set of wheel weights.
> The crack in the block is between two frost plugs and actually quite easy 
> to get to once the starter is removed.  Should be a straight forward job 
> for the lock and stitch repair system.  I will have to move some stuff 
> around in the barn this weekend to make room for it  - should be delivered 
> next week.
> I had been looking for a Series IV D-17, but this seemed so much like one 
> I thought that it would do just fine.  I am surprised at how "$ 
> reasonable" that engine kits and the like are for this Perkins engine.  I 
> think the parts for the D-14's engines are at least 50% higher, as are 
> those for the similar sized Allis built gas and diesels.  Looks like it 
> pays to use a high production volume engine.
> This has a 3 point hitch, original top link and two remote valves.  I was 
> at an auction last summer and picked up a loader for a 170 because I 
> thought that it would fit a D-14.  Talk about luck - no more luck for me 
> for several years!  This will probably let me sell one of the D-14s (I'm 
> not sure if I used that with the wife or not)!
> Very much noticed one other thing, - there is a big difference between a 
> 36 HP machine and a 56 HP machine!  I had forgotten the feel of that much 
> power.  I negotiated a price that. while it included delivery, is "as is". 
> The manager is not happy with the salesman for not spotting the crack and 
> the salesman is not happy with the previous owner for not pointing it out. 
> Manager wanted it out before the end of the year - that was clear and said 
> this way he was wholesaling it.  I am very comfortable with it as it is 
> the third tractor of that general design I have bought.  This hopefully 
> gives me quite a bit of knowledge about them and what to look for.  Time 
> will tell if I really know what I am doing.
> Carl Gogol
> Manlius, NY
> AC 170 D
> (2) AC D-14, AC 914H
> Simplicity 3112 & 7116
> Kubota F-2400
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