[AJD] 1939 B front tire size-Dean

Sun Dec 4 15:14:25 PST 2005

Dean: It takes them about five minutes to do it once they enter the serial 
number. I stood and watched them do my buddy's at the last Expo.

Bruce Mahr

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
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Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] 1939 B front tire size

> Chris:
>
> Better send that request to the "Two Cylinder Magazine". The CC doesn't do
> the serial number research any more. In fact I believe the magazine had a
> note in it recently about a certain deadline in order to receive a 
> response
> by Christmas. It does take awhile. I have wondered a bit why it takes so
> long. It is my understanding the JD hired Two Cylinder Magazine to enter 
> the
> hand written data into a computer data base some years ago. I don't know 
> if
> that was totally completed. But if most or all of the data is stored on
> computer, it would seem to me to be a somewhat trivial task to search on a
> serial number and print out the results. Must be something more to this 
> than
> I am aware of. It may be nothing more than someone of the staff who has
> multiple jobs to take care of.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Chris C
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:23 PM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: Re: [AJD] 1939 B front tire size
>
> Duane,
>
>    Thanks for the info. So it looks like my wheel configuration in 
> correct,
> or was at least a possibility.  I guess I will have to shell some money 
> out
> to the collector's center for some s/n research one of these days.
>
>                                     Chris
>
> Duane Larson <jdlarson at comcast.net> wrote:
>  The following information is for rubber tire wheels only.
> A 1939 B came from the factory with the following front wheels:
> AB1023R-version 2 with a3.00Dx15 rim for a 5.00-15 tire. version 2 means
> the center wheel is riveted to the rim at 4 "flutes", with 2 rivets/flute.
> Sometime in the early '40 model year AB1023R-version 3 was used, and it 
> had
> four "hand holes" where the wheel meets the rim. That was followed by the
> JD1262R reversible rim at B153376.
>
> Rear wheels had more options. A B1545R (casting, not part number) had a
> cast-in hub and used a B1189R clamp. Several rims were available. A
> "conventional" rim for 7.50 or 9.00-36 tires was used until 81792, at 
> which
> time Deere generally made a change to "wide base" rims and tires so a 
> 7W-38
> rim was used for an 8 or 9-38 tire until early 1940 when a 10-38 option
> became available. Note a 9-38 tire then would be a 9.5-38 tire now.
>
> Pressed steel wheels also became available at the change to wide base 
> tires,
>
> and at 81793 the JD1250R wheel with a 7W-38 rim for a 8 or 9-38 tire was
> available.
>
> A flat spoke rear wheel (JD1240R) was used, but became an option at 81793.
> The JD1240R used a B1189R clamp and had a 6.00S-36 rim for 7.50 or 9.00-36
> conventional tires. However, it had hub breakage problems and was replaced
> by the JD1259R flat spoke wheel at 102683, which also had problems and was
> replaced by the JD1270R flat spoke wheel with a bolt-in hub at about 
> 191300.
>
> Both of these last two wheels were replacement wheels only.
> Duane Larson
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dean VP"
> To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'"
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:04 AM
> Subject: RE: [AJD] 1939 B front tire size
>
>
>> Chris:
>>
>> I have just reviewed JD's Parts Catalog Covering Wheels dated November 1,
>> 1947, Document # F219. Some rather interesting info in it regarding front
>> and rear rubber tired wheels for the 1939 B.
>>
>> Front RIMs
>>
>> Part Number Description
>>
>> AB1023R Disk & Rim(for 5.50 x 15 tire)
>> JD1262R Disk & Rim(reversible)(For 5.50 x 15" tire)
>>
>>
>> No mention of a 5.00 x 15" tire
>>
>> Rear Rims
>>
>> The 36" rears are only mentioned when used with the Spoked type rear
>> wheels
>> or for Demountable Rim AB1452R which I assume was used only with cast
>> centers. I haven't figured out what cast center that is used with yet.
>>
>> But.........
>>
>> I better go out to the barn tomorrow and check the tire sizes on my three
>> 39
>> and 40 B's. It troubles me that this document only mentions 5.50 x 15
>> tires.
>>
>>
>> Hold the tire order! :-)
>>
>>
>> Dean A. Van Peursem
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>
>> www.deerelegacy.com
>>
>> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>> Dean VP
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:20 PM
>> To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
>> Subject: RE: [AJD] 1939 B front tire size
>>
>> Chris:
>>
>> I noticed the 36" rear wheel thing too, when I looked the tire size up. I
>> was too lazy to go out to the barn and look at the three sets I have here
>> but I do remember the front small sizes that are on mine. I've got two
>> 1940
>> Slant dash B's here and I parted out the 39B and they all have 38" rears.
>> But referring to JD's Dir No 249 dated 12-42 Instructions and Parts List
>> it
>> only refers to 36" rears. I had never noticed that particular detail
>> before.
>>
>> I have a secondary printing 6 x 9", Yellow and Green, Operator's manual
>> here
>> (OM-R2005) for B's Ser # 60000 to B201000) and it very clearly states 
>> 5:00
>
>> x
>> 15" 4-ply rubber tires. Interestingly this same manual only mentions
>> 10-38"
>> 4-ply rear tires on cast wheels with steel wheels as an option. No 
>> mention
>> of 36" rears.
>>
>> I've never fully trusted this manual for the 39 & 40 models due to its
>> broad
>> serial number coverage and it totally ignores the uniqueness of the 1939
>> and
>> 1940 models, especially the Slant Dash features.
>>
>> Hopefully someone will join in here and add additional info.
>>
>> There was an original 6 x 9" Green and Grey Operators manual for the B's
>> starting at Ser no 60,000 on eBay recently but it went for such a high
>> price
>> I had to pass on it. And I didn't know if it really was any different 
>> than
>> the manual I have now. There are so many details about these tractors and
>> their associated documentation that I just don't know how one can ever 
>> say
>> they now have collected all that was published.
>>
>> Dean A. Van Peursem
>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>
>> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>
>> www.deerelegacy.com
>>
>> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
>> Chris C
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:50 PM
>> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
>> Subject: RE: [AJD] 1939 B front tire size
>>
>> Dean,
>>
>> Yes, I still have the front tires and rims.
>> however, they tires are so rotten you can;t read
>> anything on them. This is the B I got from Dave. It
>> also has 38" rears and I thought that if you had the
>> 15 inch fronts you needed 36 in rears. Anyway it
>> doesn't really matter that much, I just wanted to try
>> and have the correct tire size on it, one less thing
>> for people to chip at when selling a tractor.. not
>> that it is for sale, I just don't see me keeping this
>> one forever...
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --- Dean VP wrote:
>>
>>> Chris:
>>>
>>> 500 x 15 4 ply inflated to 28 lbs is the standard
>>> size. 5.50 x 16 and 6.50
>>> x 16 are optional. But don't you still have the rims
>>> or old tires?
>>>
>>> Dean A. Van Peursem
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
>>>
>>> www.deerelegacy.com
>>>
>>> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>
>> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]
>>> On Behalf Of
>>> Chris C
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:11 PM
>>> To: ATIS LIST
>>> Subject: [AJD] 1939 B front tire size
>>>
>>> Howdy all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am looking at putting a tire order together
>>> and my manuals don't list a front tire size for my
>>> B.
>>> I think it has 5.00 - 15's on it. Is that correct
>>> or
>>> should it have 5.50 - 15 or 5.50 - 16's on it?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
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