[AJD] Hood Bolts

Bill Thompson spud_thompson at toleartist.com
Fri Dec 2 08:14:11 PST 2005


Louis , sorry my CRS , must of kicked in , but you read my mind , the grill 
bolts is what I ment , the ones that go into the cast frount end . Thanks 
for your help . Bill


Bill "Spud" Thompson
Katahdin Valley Farm
Sherman Mills, Maine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis" <louis at kellnet.com>
To: "'Antique John Deere mailing list'" 
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [AJD] Hood Bolts


> You need to be careful while heating around cast.  It can crack from 
> heating
> the bolt. The entire area of cast should be preheated with a torch.
>
> I usually have luck with easy outs.  There is a reason why it broke in the
> first place. Because it is stuck for some reason.  So it needs to be 
> unstuck
> some how.  The easy out replaces the bolt or screw head that is missing. 
> The
> best thing to do is heat the hardware before you try to remove it.  That 
> way
> you end up with less broken bolts.
>
> The trick is that you need to heat the bolt. This may take several heating
> and cooling cycles.  I then use canning wax, you can use a crayon or 
> candle
> also.  I touch the wax to the hot metal.  The wax will penetrate into the
> thread and act as lubricant.  Wait till the metal cools from red hot.  The
> paraffin in the wax can catch on fire.
>
> Another trick, if there is enough of a stub sticking out of the hole, you
> can weld a nut to it.  The heat from the welding should loosen up the bolt
> and then you have something to put a wrench on.  You also don't have to 
> work
> about drilling the bolt out.
>
> Before I would try to melt the bolt out.  I would try to drill it out.
> Don't worry about the threads.  You can go to NAPA and get a Heli-Coil kit
> for a reasonable price.  They are cheap then the aggravation of trying to
> not mess the threads up with a torch.
>
> Lou
>
> mailto:louis at kellnet.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Dean VP
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:27 PM
> To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
> Subject: RE: [AJD] Hood Bolts
>
>
> Bill:
>
> it depends on which hood bolts you are talking about. If they are the ones
> that connect to the square captive nuts behind hood, just bend the shell 
> and
> release and replace them. If you are referring to those hood bolts that go
> into castings then just use an acetylene torch, heat the portion to the 
> bolt
> that remains a few times to a cherry red, drill them out as close to the
> threads as you dare and then melt out the rest. You can try using the 
> "never
> outs" first after the heating and drilling but sometimes the only way is 
> to
> melt them out. Just remember that the bolt metal will melt at just a
> slightly lower temperature than the cast iron. Using a left hand drill 
> will
> sometimes cause them to come loose while drilling.
>
> The real key is to get the bolt material right up to the temperature where
> it is about to melt, let cool and repeat, when trying to turn them out.
> Don't be afraid to get it really hot.  The expansion and contraction will
> break the rust bond.
>
>
> My Christmas wish to Santa is a set of left handed Cobalt drill bits. 
> But...
> I don't think Santa knows where I live.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> Forbidden fruits create many jams!
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Bill Thompson
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:37 PM
> To: Antique John Deere mailing list
> Subject: [AJD] Hood Bolts
>
> Hi Boys , I wounder if you could help  me out . I know this has come up
> before on the list, I have tried the EZouts , and it is not going to work. 
> .
>
> Can you take a touch to them, and blow them out, have any of you boys 
> tried
> that . Well let me know ok  .   Thanks !
>
>
> Bill "Spud" Thompson
> Katahdin Valley Farm
> Sherman Mills, Maine
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