[Farmall] Lost Steering on my A yesterday

[Jim Becker]

Troy,
Take a look here:
http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/A%20-%20B/TC-26E%20Parts%20Catalog/Page%2096.jpg
Reference # 26 clamps to # 20 with the 7/16 bolt I mentioned earlier. 
Reference # 23 is held to #15 with 6 bolts like the other one I mentioned, 
1/2 x 1 1/4 NC.  Maybe one of these 6 bolts is the one you said came out. 
Even if several of these bolts are missing, I believe the parts are doweled 
so #23 shouldn't have moved much.  It wouild not explain loosing steering.

By the way, # 15 is called Steering Gear Housing, # 23 is called Steering 
Gear Housing Base.

Jim Becker        jim.becker at verizon.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Troy Bogdan" <tbogdan1 at earthlink.net>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] Lost Steering on my A yesterday


> Sorry to confuse you Jim, Yes, this is a Farmall A.
>
> My wording was probably not so good.  The loose bolt that I found came out
> of the steering gear case.  It is underneath and off to the right side.
>
> The two missing bolts are underneath and towards the front of the steering
> gear case.
>
> I hope that helps, and thanks,  Troy
>
>
> on 8/26/05 2:07 PM, Jim Becker at jim.becker at verizon.net wrote:
>
>> Now I'm confused.  Since this is the Farmall list, I assume you are 
>> talking
>> about a Farmall A.  Is that correct?
>>
>> Jim Becker        jim.becker at verizon.net
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Troy Bogdan" <tbogdan1 at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 11:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Lost Steering on my A yesterday
>>
>>
>>> I just went out and took another look, and now I think I know what is
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> There are two problems.  1) there are two bolts missing from I guess 
>>> what
>>> you called the steering gear case (maybe also called a steering box) 
>>> that
>>> I
>>> think probably hold it onto the main housing.  And 2) the bolt that I
>>> found
>>> was the one that actually goes into the side of the steering box.  This
>>> bolt
>>> hole is the broken piece of metal, and the bolt I found used to screw in
>>> here, but now that it is cracked, it will go in, but will not stay in
>>> cause
>>> 1/2 of the threads are in the broken piece.
>>>
>>> I don't know if this is repairable or not, since it is broken on the
>>> thread,
>>> but in the meantime, if you have a parts manual, do you know what the 
>>> size
>>> of those two missing bolts that hold the case to the housing?  I would 
>>> at
>>> least like to replace them since nothing else is holding this front end 
>>> on
>>> from what I can make out.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much,  Troy
>>>
>>>
>>> on 8/26/05 10:13 AM, Jim Becker at jim.becker at verizon.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> If the bolt was a 7/16 fine thread, it probably was the clamp bolt that
>>>> holds the steering arm to the sector shaft.  I have seen many that were
>>>> loose, but never one loose enough to fall out.  The piece of steel was
>>>> probably one side of the clamp part of the arm.  Does the broken piece
>>>> have
>>>> a hole for a 7/16 bolt?  If that broke it wouldn't explain a sudden 
>>>> loss
>>>> of
>>>> a lot of grease.  Maybe the grease had gradually leaked and this event
>>>> just
>>>> knocked it loose from where it had accumulated.  Newer replacement arms
>>>> were
>>>> redesigned to go on a redesigned sector shaft that uses a key and a nut
>>>> on
>>>> the end of the shaft.  Both the arm and shaft will be badly worn and 
>>>> need
>>>> replacing.
>>>>
>>>> If the bolt is 1/2 coarse thread, it is probably one of the bolts that
>>>> holds
>>>> the bottom of the steering gear case onto the main housing.  That would
>>>> suggest another whole problem separate from why you lost the steering.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Becker        jim.becker at verizon.net
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Troy Bogdan" <tbogdan1 at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:24 AM
>>>> Subject: [Farmall] Lost Steering on my A yesterday
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> I hope this goes through, it seems like the list has been down for a 
>>>>> few
>>>>> days. Anyways . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I was mowing with my 1945 A when I suddenly lost steering. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> looked down below where the steering wheel shaft connects into the
>>>>> front,
>>>>> and I noticed a bolt fell out and there was a cracked piece of steel 
>>>>> and
>>>>> lots of grease coming out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering if this might be a problem any of you ever had, and if
>>>>> so,
>>>>> what is the best way of fixing it.  Thanks,  Troy
>>>>
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