[AJD] wheel removal, impossible?? THANKS

[Jim Showers]

I guess it is just the jolt....I know it works.  I drove the 530 around for 
a long time with the jack screws tight and the wedge screws loose and 
nothing happened until I hit the end of the axle with a sledgehammer.  It is 
the same with tie rod ends on older cars, often hitting the outside of the 
joint will cause it to fall apart.
Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kreig" <astroguy at nas.com>
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Subject: Re: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible?? THANKS


> Hitting the axle with a BIG hammer would in theory not move because of the 
> mass of the axle and tractor.
>
> So, why does hitting the axle loosen the wheel hub??
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Showers" <steamcar at hereintown.net>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list" 
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> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible?? THANKS
>
>
>> Nothing happened to my 530...I was using it today.  I hit the end of the 
>> axle about 6 years ago to break the wheel loose and there is still no 
>> seal leakage.  I learned of this technique through Green Magazine.
>> Jim Showers
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "kreig" <astroguy at nas.com>
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>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible?? THANKS
>>
>>
>>> The pipe idea failed.    Made up a pice up pipe to slide over the axle 
>>> and welded a 1/2" plate to pound on, no success, no movement, nothing.
>>>
>>> Heat did not work, lots of heat.
>>>
>>> Giant wheel puller, no success.
>>>
>>> Lots of  "penetrating" fluid, no success.
>>>
>>> Pounding on the wedges, no success.
>>>
>>> What happens to wheel beearings, seals, gears etc when pounding on the 
>>> end of the axle?
>>>
>>> Kreig
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <astroguy at nas.com>
>>> To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible?? THANKS
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great ideas Bruce, THANK YOU!!!
>>>>
>>>> Why didn't you tell me this BEFORE I removed the rim from the wheel and
>>>> spent $100 on the propane set up???    haha
>>>>
>>>> I will try the pipe idea, sounds great.
>>>>
>>>> Kreig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Original Message:
>>>> -----------------
>>>> From: Bruce Mahr martian at winco.net
>>>> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:15:18 -0500
>>>> To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kreig: I have the best luck with loosening the inside three bolts on 
>>>> the
>>>> inner wedge a couple of turns and then driving the tractor around and
>>>> individually hitting each brake pedal separately to help jar them 
>>>> loose.
>>>> You
>>>> can also take a heavy wall pipe that will fit over the axle and weld a
>>>> heavy
>>>> plate over the opening on the outer end and cutting a half moon piece 
>>>> off
>>>> the inner end so that when you hit the outer end, the protruding lip on 
>>>> the
>>>> inner end will hit only on the wedge you have the jack screws tightened 
>>>> up
>>>> against.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Mahr
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "astroguynascom" <astroguy at nas.com>
>>>> To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:11 PM
>>>> Subject: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to remove the wheel hubs off the JD 50.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have removed all of the bolts. Cleaned up the two bolts used for 
>>>>> pushing
>>>>> out the wedge.  Reinstalled and tightened these two bolts, and I do 
>>>>> mean
>>>>> tightened!!   Using a brass punch and hammer and beating on the two 
>>>>> wedges
>>>>> with no results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Installed a home made wheel puller made up of 2" square thick wall 
>>>>> tubing
>>>>> and a 1.25 inch bolt used to press on the axle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now all of this put together with no movement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Went out and bought a Propane tank, propane, and a rose bud (sp?) 
>>>>> torch
>>>>> and
>>>>> heated up the rim for 20 minutes. Tightened the wheel puller (max),
>>>>> tightened the push bolts (max), beat on the wedges with brass driver 
>>>>> and
>>>>> heavy hammer, AND beat on the back side of the wheel with a brass 
>>>>> hammer.
>>>>> All at about the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Results . . . . . . . . .  no movement, nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> What to do next??    Cry???
>>>>>
>>>>> Kreig
>>>>>
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