[AJD] wheel removal, impossible?? THANKS

[kreig]

Hitting the axle with a BIG hammer would in theory not move because of the 
mass of the axle and tractor.

So, why does hitting the axle loosen the wheel hub??


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Showers" <steamcar at hereintown.net>
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Subject: Re: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible?? THANKS


> Nothing happened to my 530...I was using it today.  I hit the end of the 
> axle about 6 years ago to break the wheel loose and there is still no seal 
> leakage.  I learned of this technique through Green Magazine.
> Jim Showers
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kreig" <astroguy at nas.com>
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> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:39 PM
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>> The pipe idea failed.    Made up a pice up pipe to slide over the axle 
>> and welded a 1/2" plate to pound on, no success, no movement, nothing.
>>
>> Heat did not work, lots of heat.
>>
>> Giant wheel puller, no success.
>>
>> Lots of  "penetrating" fluid, no success.
>>
>> Pounding on the wedges, no success.
>>
>> What happens to wheel beearings, seals, gears etc when pounding on the 
>> end of the axle?
>>
>> Kreig
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <astroguy at nas.com>
>> To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible?? THANKS
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Great ideas Bruce, THANK YOU!!!
>>>
>>> Why didn't you tell me this BEFORE I removed the rim from the wheel and
>>> spent $100 on the propane set up???    haha
>>>
>>> I will try the pipe idea, sounds great.
>>>
>>> Kreig
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Original Message:
>>> -----------------
>>> From: Bruce Mahr martian at winco.net
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:15:18 -0500
>>> To: antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible??
>>>
>>>
>>> Kreig: I have the best luck with loosening the inside three bolts on the
>>> inner wedge a couple of turns and then driving the tractor around and
>>> individually hitting each brake pedal separately to help jar them loose.
>>> You
>>> can also take a heavy wall pipe that will fit over the axle and weld a
>>> heavy
>>> plate over the opening on the outer end and cutting a half moon piece 
>>> off
>>> the inner end so that when you hit the outer end, the protruding lip on 
>>> the
>>> inner end will hit only on the wedge you have the jack screws tightened 
>>> up
>>> against.
>>>
>>> Bruce Mahr
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "astroguynascom" <astroguy at nas.com>
>>> To: <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:11 PM
>>> Subject: [AJD] wheel removal, impossible??
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trying to remove the wheel hubs off the JD 50.
>>>>
>>>> Have removed all of the bolts. Cleaned up the two bolts used for 
>>>> pushing
>>>> out the wedge.  Reinstalled and tightened these two bolts, and I do 
>>>> mean
>>>> tightened!!   Using a brass punch and hammer and beating on the two 
>>>> wedges
>>>> with no results.
>>>>
>>>> Installed a home made wheel puller made up of 2" square thick wall 
>>>> tubing
>>>> and a 1.25 inch bolt used to press on the axle.
>>>>
>>>> Now all of this put together with no movement.
>>>>
>>>> Went out and bought a Propane tank, propane, and a rose bud (sp?) torch
>>>> and
>>>> heated up the rim for 20 minutes. Tightened the wheel puller (max),
>>>> tightened the push bolts (max), beat on the wedges with brass driver 
>>>> and
>>>> heavy hammer, AND beat on the back side of the wheel with a brass 
>>>> hammer.
>>>> All at about the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Results . . . . . . . . .  no movement, nothing.
>>>>
>>>> What to do next??    Cry???
>>>>
>>>> Kreig
>>>>
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