Alt fuels was Re: [AT] Gasoline $

charlie hill chill8 at cox.net
Sat Aug 13 05:18:08 PDT 2005


Not exactly  Steve.  $2.069/.66 (efficency factor compared to gasoline)= 
$3.13 + $.46 the gov't pays with our taxes = $3.59 to get you the same 
distance that $2.50 in gasoline would.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Alt fuels was Re: [AT] Gasoline $


> That means after you add in the 46 cents per gallon that the government
> pays to producers of E-85 it works out to 2.469 per gallon.
>
> Steve W.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Walker" <alwalker at gvtel.com>
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>> charlie hill wrote:
>>
>> > What does E85 sell for?
>> >
>> This thread has progressed quite a bit since I forgot to check prices
>> yesterday. Interesting to say the least.  Well, this morning E-10 was
>> selling for 2.379, E-85 was 2.069.  On road diesel was at 2.499 and
> Off
>> road diesel at the pump was 2.169.  On the way home from work, I
> noticed
>> that E-10 was up to 2.449.
>>
>> This thread has discussed differences between petroleum fuels that we
>> have to buy from overseas and alternative fuels that we can produce
>> here.  We have invested decades engineering engines and engineering
> the
>> production of fuels from petroleum.  How much effort have we put into
>> the engineering of ethanols and biodiesels.  How much effort have we
>> expended on fine tuning our engines and fuel systems to use a
> different
>> fuel.  Various crops have been discussed relating to their oil content
>> etc. How much research have we done to find crops that produce even
> more
>> oil. Have we used our ability to genetically manipulate plants to
>> achieve such "new" varieties.  I think work is definitely in progress,
>> but we have a ways to go. Perhaps there might still be a future for
>> small family farms again. Perhaps that Allis-Chalmers fuel-cell
> powered
>> tractor might become feasible after all.  Can we do it?  Yes, we can !
>> Al in NW Minnesota
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