Alt fuels was Re: [AT] Gasoline $

[charlie hill]

Next time you see that fuel cell tractor look real close and you will see 
the propane cylinder.  I'm not saying it doesn't work.  I'm just saying it 
is a different way of turning fossil fuel into HP.  By the way, we keep 
talking about Nuclear Power.  There is no such thing.  The nuclear part is 
just a "cheap" way to turn water into steam.  The electricity is made the 
same way as in any other power plant.  It's all about conversion of mass 
into heat into motion.

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Walker" <alwalker at gvtel.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: Alt fuels was Re: [AT] Gasoline $


> charlie hill wrote:
>
>> What does E85 sell for?
>>
> This thread has progressed quite a bit since I forgot to check prices 
> yesterday. Interesting to say the least.  Well, this morning E-10 was 
> selling for 2.379, E-85 was 2.069.  On road diesel was at 2.499 and Off 
> road diesel at the pump was 2.169.  On the way home from work, I noticed 
> that E-10 was up to 2.449.
>
> This thread has discussed differences between petroleum fuels that we have 
> to buy from overseas and alternative fuels that we can produce here.  We 
> have invested decades engineering engines and engineering the production 
> of fuels from petroleum.  How much effort have we put into the engineering 
> of ethanols and biodiesels.  How much effort have we expended on fine 
> tuning our engines and fuel systems to use a different fuel.  Various 
> crops have been discussed relating to their oil content etc. How much 
> research have we done to find crops that produce even more oil. Have we 
> used our ability to genetically manipulate plants to achieve such "new" 
> varieties.  I think work is definitely in progress, but we have a ways to 
> go. Perhaps there might still be a future for small family farms again. 
> Perhaps that Allis-Chalmers fuel-cell powered tractor might become 
> feasible after all.  Can we do it?  Yes, we can !
> Al in NW Minnesota
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