[AT] Building

Dean VP deanvp at att.net
Wed Apr 27 15:12:56 PDT 2005 

Richard:

That is very helpful.  We currently have a 48' x 36' horse barn that is my
tractor storage area and sometimes shop. But since all the stalls and tack
rooms, etc are in there, storage is limited. My meager shop now is one of
the bays in the three car garage which isn't appropriate.  "THE Boss says!"

Actually if I had a building 36' x 48 with no interior walls & posts it
might be adequate.  But our horse barn was built so well it would be an
outright sin to strip the insides out of it. I suppose one could save the
partitions but an open floor plan w/o support posts would work much better.
Picky, picky!

I'm a bit surprised that the heated floor is expensive to heat. I expected
an expensive installation but I naively thought it might be a low cost
heating method. I better do some more homework on that. 

Adding "lean to's" to the side of the building has been thought of and would
be a low cost way of gain extra storage for implements, etc but I'm not sure
that would fit into the cosmetic requirements. With our windy, rainy weather
I'm not sure a "lean to" really provides much extra protection. Maybe if the
building was situated right the hidden side could have that feature. A few
bent up and rusted corrugated roofing panels could be used to add
protection!  Ya, You betcha. :-) That would be immediate cause for an
emergency addition to the shop. A bed!  :-)  

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
storeroom door 


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-----Original Message-----
From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strobel
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:13 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Building

Here's what I did with my 36 x 64 Dean.  One section is main shop with tall,

16' wide over head door,  other section is wood shop and third section is 
motor home storage soon to be old iron museum.

   Wood shop has a pickup size loading ramp which is very 
helpful..expecially on my back.

   A reputable concrete firm is mandatory..ask around, shop around.  I have 
radiant heat pipes in my slab and it's quite an expensive installation and 
monthly heating bills are pretty high...but it sure feels good on the bones 
when laid on.

   Wiring I did myself.  200 amp service and plenty of 110/220 plug-ins on 
the wall.  Each wall has it's own breaker and GFI's installed.  Telephone 
lines and tv coax are also there..speaker wires too.

    3/4" copper lines make up the air circuit and at the end of each line is

a blow down drain.  These run through the 2x6 studs.  Do this before 
installing the siding as you will probably need to drill a hole on the 
outside in order to run the long ridgid tubing.  btw., compressor is in the 
back room so I don't have to listen to the noise.

   Probably the smartest idea came from a friend as he suggested building a 
lean to affair on one end of the shop.  One man door and an overhead is 
recommended.  In this lean to I store all the crap that would otherwise 
garbage up my shop or basement. ie. four wheeler, lawn mower, rakes, 
shovels, etc., etc.  This was a very good idea and I don't heat it.

   I do wish I had put windows up high in the main shop..nuttin' better than

natural light.

   My overhead lights are on zones and controlled by 3 switches..give the 
zones some thought.

   Also I have a switch wired in series with the pressure switch on my air 
compressor.  I turn all switches off when leaving and back on when I 
re-enter.  I like this idea.  Compressors have been know to burn out from 
continuos run due to switch failure or whatever.

  I also have pvc pipe in the slab and this will be used for exiting exhaust

or welding fumes..I still need to get a blower.

  That's about all for now...take plenty of time for planning.  I did, over 
two years.

Hope this helps!!
RickinMt.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean VP" <deanvp at att.net>
To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'" 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:31 PM
Subject: RE: [AT] Building


> I am monitoring this building discussion with keen and immediate interest.
> There is a pretty good chance we may be buying vacant land with plans to
> build a new house (rambler) and shop over the next two year period or so. 
> We
> have a pretty good idea of what the house needs to be along with whatever
> improvements in the property are required and whatever is left in the 
> budget
> I get to build a shop. The present top line budget look like it is very
> doable but until we pick some vacant land parcels as prime candidates it 
> is
> like fencing with windmills.
>
> But any and all comments about what is needed in a shop is of significant
> interest. I'm listening intently.
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
> storeroom door
>
>
> www.deerelegacy.com
>
> http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Richard Fink Sr
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:27 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Building
>
>
> Yep they did Farmer my shop now is 60x60 two story and now is to big for 
> me
> to keep up with. And yes i plan in heat in the floor.  It is just the
> $20,000 that gets me. My shop did not cost that much with hot water heat.
> R Fink
>
>
>
> At 08:06 AM 4/26/2005, you wrote:
> >         Hi Richard:
> >
> >         What ever you do don't let anyone talk you out of putting a 
> > vapor
> > barrier under the
> >floor... you will be thankful and your tools will be thankful. Personally
> >I would never
> >put down a concrete floor in a building without putting in plastic pipe 
> >or
> >tubing for
> >heat even if I had no immediate plans to use it. I sure wish there was
> >some under mine.
> >         Good luck on the shop and remember nobody ever built one too
> > big...   :-)
> >
> >--
> >"farmer", Esquire
> >At Hewick Midwest
> >       Wealth beyond belief, just no money...
> >
> >Paternal Robinson's here by way of Norway (Clan Gunn), Scottish 
> >Highlands,
> >Cleasby Yorkshire England, Virginia, Kentucky then Indiana. In America 
> >100
> >years
> >before the revolution.
> >
> >
> >Francis Robinson
> >Central Indiana USA
> >robinson at svs.net
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