In a message dated 4/24/2005 5:01:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Mattias.kessen at telia.com writes: Can someone please explain what grits and poi are? I 've tried to not bother but since this thread seems to last forever so... please. /Mattias In one word Mattias YUK!!!!!! Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460