[AT] Tractor looking/ I-86

Sun Apr 24 18:46:48 PDT 2005

Yes, you have it right, George.  I have never been on the Western end beyond 
Jamestown, but I do not know why it would be any better.  With I-90 being a 
toll road, the State of NY makes sure that parallel highways which might 
compete are not an enjoyable drive.  Maybe that is only my suspicious mind, 
but it never changes for long at a time.  I think it is called kill the 
competition or something like that. I have seen state highways that were cow 
paths for years be widened and repaved a month or two before the Governor 
paid a visit to a nearby state institution.  The refurbish stopped just far 
enough past the institution to be out of sight of the driveway.  Odd how 
that works out.

Charlie V.

>From: "George Willer" <gwill at toast.net>
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><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor looking
>Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:48:37 -0400
>
>Charlie,
>
>If I have it right that rt 17 or I-86 is now known as the southern tier 
>expressway or something like that.  That road beat the daylights out of me 
>, my truck and my trailer.  I like to travel with my laptop with GPS on the 
>console for entertainment even when I don't need it on interstates.  The 
>ride was so rough it kept shaking the CD open and losing my program.  I 
>hope I never have to go that way again.
>
>The laptop was at least able to count down the endless miles till we got to 
>I-90.  :-)
>
>George Willer
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor looking
>
>
>>I have to tell you, George, that before the resurface work was done on RT 
>>I 17 ( now I 86) I had to get off one time and take the old 415 south to 
>>Pa. to pick up a car.   I made the mistake of putting the tire pressure on 
>>both truck and trailer to 60 lbs for carrying the load prior to leaving 
>>home. With the pavement broken at each concrete slab, after a few miles of 
>>that road Doris and I thought our heads were going to explode.  Kaboom, 
>>kaboom, kaboom, about 10 times a minute at each seam.  The old two lane 
>>road was much better.  On the way home with a 74 Chrys. Newport on the 
>>trailer, we road like a baby buggy, but still stayed off the interstate.
>>
>>The only thing living in the highest tax state in the U.S. guarantees is 
>>richer politicians.
>>
>>Charlie V.
>>
>>
>>>From: "George Willer" <gwill at toast.net>
>>>Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor looking
>>>Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:57:22 -0400
>>>
>>>Charlie,
>>>
>>>The Cub I have in the shop now came from that area near Bath, NY.  It's 
>>>pretty country for sight seeing, but not to make time going cross country 
>>>pulling a trailer.  It was a two day trip.
>>>
>>>George Willer
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
>>>To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:59 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [AT] Tractor looking
>>>
>>>
>>>>Good morning Dudley,
>>>>
>>>>At Ripley, NY, you were really in WNY.  The lakeshores of both Erie and 
>>>>Ontario are great fruit belts, arent they?  I am located more South of 
>>>>Rochester at the south edge of Monroe County. This area is considered 
>>>>WNY, but is really not that far from the central area of the state 
>>>>either.  I guess I could say Eastern Western NY.(grin).
>>>>Yesterday we went South along Honeoye  Lake to Naples, Then
>>>>south still to Prattsburg and Kanona near Bath.  Mostly NYS Rt. 53 from 
>>>>Naples to Kanona.  Quite a bit of up and down thru the hills and very 
>>>>rural . Only a couple of "if you blink your eyes you miss them 
>>>>"communities along the way.  I think the cost of gas has cut down on the 
>>>>traffic so it was very light.  Quite nice to be able to drive the speed 
>>>>limit of 55 mph and for a change not have someone willing to die to pass 
>>>>you every minute.  From Konona we did a 180 back North on Rt. 415, then 
>>>>some county roads home from Wayland NY.
>>>>As Cecil mentions, there are still many real back roads in Southerntier 
>>>>NY,  but I try to stay off them unless I am in the 4X4.
>>>>
>>>>Charlie V.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Dudley Rupert" <drupert at premier1.net>
>>>>>Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>>>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>>>>><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>>>Subject: RE: [AT] Tractor looking
>>>>>Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:09:04 -0700
>>>>>
>>>>>Charlie,
>>>>>
>>>>>I enjoyed your' days travelogue ... I am curious where in WNY you went.
>>>>>
>>>>>I spent two summers, 1955 & 56, working on a fruit farm roughly one 
>>>>>mile
>>>>>East of Ripley on US 20.  The farmer had close to a thousand cherry 
>>>>>trees,
>>>>>about half that many peach trees as well as 30 acres or so of grapes. 
>>>>>From
>>>>>his living room windows you could look out across the lake and see the
>>>>>steamers going to and coming from Buffalo ... I remember it as very
>>>>>beautiful country.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dudley
>>>>>Snohomish, Washington
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com]On Behalf Of CEE VILL
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:51 PM
>>>>>To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>Subject: [AT] Tractor looking
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Charlie V. in WNY
>>>>>
>>>>>
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