[Farmall] M - Tricycle Wheel Spacing

Mike Sloane mikesloane at verizon.net
Fri Apr 22 08:22:10 PDT 2005


Not to start up an old food fight, but I have had dealings with several 
rolled over tractors with loaders (fortunately none involving me on 
them!), all wide front, and I never have seen a similar narrow front 
rolled. (Maybe folks with narrow front tractors are more careful?) If 
there is a difference in stability, it is, to my mind, a very small 
percentage. And if you are foolish enough to drive around with a full 
bucket of rocks raised high, the odds of a roll over are probably about 
the same either way. The only way to absolutely insure stability for a 
loader machine is to have it on a skid steer or crawler with a rigid 
wheelbase, not a machine like a tractor where the front end pivots.

Just my opinion, of course. :-)

Mike

Jim Hudson wrote:
> George that is why a 4 wheeler is much safer than a 3 wheeler. Did
> they outlaw 3 wheeler's??
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: George Willer To: Farmall/IHC
> mailing list Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 8:47 AM Subject: Re:
> [Farmall] M - Tricycle Wheel Spacing
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> The laws of physics prevail whether we understand them or not.  Those
> of us who understand such things do know that the wide front is more
> stable.  The effective pivot point of a WFE is higher... having the
> same effect as lowering the center of gravity.  No myth here, just an
> observation of fact. What is not clear is how MUCH more stable, but
> the fact that the WFE is more stable is indeed a FACT.
> 
> Of course the NFE is more maneuverable, but that comes at a reduction
> in safety.
> 
> George Willer
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sloane"
> <mikesloane at verizon.net> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list"
> <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:30
> AM Subject: Re: [Farmall] M - Tricycle Wheel Spacing
> 
> 
>> Sorry, Roberto, but a loader works just as well on a narrow front
>> tractor as a wide front, and for the same reasons. In fact, the
>> front end of a narrow front tractor is considerably stronger than
>> the one on a wide front, and the tractor is considerably more
>> maneuverable. A big advantage for me when installing the 1701
>> loader on my 706 was that I could drive right through the frame to
>> mount it!. The stability of a wide front over a narrow one is a
>> myth, but I will agree that a wide front tractor rides a little
>> better over a rough surface (like my lane before I graded it level
>>  last month).
>> 
>> See:
>> <http://public.fotki.com/mikesloane/farmall_706_tractor/ns-6.html>
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Roberto Rivero wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But how is this tractor equiped???? is a tricycle?? is a narrow
>>> or is a wide front???? Sorry may be i did not understand all the
>>> posts, but if the tractor is equiped with a front loader, a wide
>>> front end is needle for a lot of reasons (some of them were
>>> posted here). _______________________________________________
>>> 

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Mike Sloane
Allamuchy NJ
mikesloane at verizon.net
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