[Farmall] Cub Year made

[Larry L Hardesty]

I have a Cub 154, a Farmall A and an International A.  It is a matter of 
taste (and probably use) as to which one is most valuable.   For me and 
for use I much prefer the A's.  I think they are built stronger (certainly 
than the 154) and have more power.  I have a belly mower on the 
International A and no problems using it.  I do not think a three spindle 
belly mower carries the same momentum with it that the heavier blades of a 
brush hog do with a tractor without live pto.  The Cub 154 is a little 
handier to get on and off and occasionally the live pto is useful in 
mowing close around things when one is stopping and starting.  However, it 
will not mow nearly as heavy a growth as will the International A (both 
60" finish mowers; both rated about the same horsepower).   I can haul the 
Cub easier and a regular Cub will probably fit in the back of a half ton 
pickup...I have not tried that with a Farmall A.  For the reasons that 
Mike mentioned, the Cub probably will go for higher dollar than the A 
(more demand by folks with limited room), but which is more 
valuable....well that is why they have horse races...a difference of 
opinion. 

Larry Hardesty





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I would add to Mike's comments about "value" of the two tractor models: 
the Cubs tend to fetch a slight higher price, assuming that conditions 
are equal. The main reason (around here anyway) is that a Cub is small 
enough to be hauled easily, can fit into one end of a standard garage 
without taking up the space of a car, and is about as small a "real" 
tractor as the average mini-rancher is likely to find. The original A, 
on the other hand, didn't have electric start or any kind of rear lift. 
But it did come with a standard PTO. Later the Super A had electric 
start and a hydraulic lift, but it still wasn't anything like the Ford 
N's three point. The Cub also had a PTO, but it was proprietary, so 
unless you got a bunch of implements with the tractor, the PTO is pretty 
much useless.

The main use for Cubs these days is mowing lawns, pulling carts and 
little manure spreaders, and driving in parades. Mowers for A's are not 
as common, but you can still pull a cart/spreader and drive it in the 
parade. I doubt that more than 1% of the older Farmalls are still used 
for any kind of farming. Believe it or not, you can still buy brand new 
Woods rotary mowers for Farmall As and Cubs, but they cost as much as 
the tractor. Whether you would want to go that route is a matter for the 
individual owner to decide, but without a live PTO, using the mower can 
be an "interesting" chore.

So while the two models are somewhat similar, the Cub tends to be more 
"desirable", and that is what sets the price, not the actual utility.

Mike

Mike Schmudlach wrote:

> I think they are both worth about the same.  The A is more useful with 
the
> extra horsepower.
> Just a matter of taste.
> Kind of like: " What's more valuable a Ford 1/2 ton or a Chevy 1/2 ton?"
> the real truth is neither of them are very valuable.  They made a 
zillion of
> each.
> Parts and implements are easily found for both.
> 
> Go with what you like.
> 
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "R Mull" <rbobmull at comcast.net>
> To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] Cub Year made
> 
> 
> 
>>Which is more valuable? An "A" or a Cub? Are parts, implements available
> 
> for
> 
>>both?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Robert Mull
>>Woodstock, Georgia

> 

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