[AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641

[Mike S Meulenberg]

I'll give it a try Larry, although I don't like the idea of the crank
being stuck, I can always hope for the best.

Thanks,
Mike

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 20:43:23 -0500 "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
writes:
> Pull the starter, Mike.  If it won't turn over with a direct 
> connection
> to the lug on the side of the starter motor, there's a real problem. 
>  I
> found a mower like this once (it happened to be at a Cub Cadet
> dealership) where the crank was actually stuck.  The dealer was
> convinced that the engine had a broken piston in it and cut me a 
> real
> deal on it.  When I got it home, I found all that had happened was 
> that
> the plastic starter gear had sheared off a couple of teeth and they 
> had
> jammed in the flywheel.  It cost me something like 68 cents to 
> repair
> the thing.
> 
> Larry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mike S
> Meulenberg
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:13 PM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641
> 
> Ok,
> Here's what I tried tonight. I took apart the battery connections 
> just
> to
> be sure their was no corrosion. I checked the plug on the back of 
> the
> ignition switch, and there was no melting of any kind. While I was 
> doing
> this, I had the battery on a charger to get it fully charged. I put
> everything back together and tried the jumper method. Here are the
> results all done with the key off:
> 
> 1. Positive bat. terminal to the first terminal on the solenoid - 
> no
> cranking plenty of sparks
> 2. Positive bat. terminal to the second terminal on the solenoid - 
> no
> cranking still plenty sparks
> 3. Positive bat. terminal directly to the starter lug - sparks, no
> cranking.
> Did I do something wrong here?
> I also pulled the battery out of my truck and hooked it up the best 
> I
> could, solenoid fluttered, only much faster. Any other ideas, I'm 
> glad I
> have a backup mower....
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:49:41 -0500 "Larry D. Goss"
> <rlgoss at evansville.net>
> writes:
> > Umph.  You're right, Steve.  I had forgotten about the "melted
> > connector" problem.  I've run into several of them on Cub Cadets.
> > 
> > Larry
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Steve 
> W.
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:32 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641
> > 
> > Mike,
> >  Common problem on the Cubs is the connector on the back of the 
> > ignition
> > switch. They tend to melt. My 1641 had melted the plastic 
> connector 
> > to
> > the point that the battery didn't charge and the tractor would 
> just 
> > die
> > without warning. What you do is pull the battery out, reach in and 
> 
> > pull
> > the connector off the back of the switch. You will probably find 
> > the
> > plastic is fried. All is not lost though. The outer plastic is the 
> 
> > same
> > as the one used on the PTO switch. On mine the three places for 
> the 
> > PTO
> > connections were fine and I just pulled the spade connectors out 
> > using a
> > small screwdriver to release them and swapped the plastic shields
> > around, make sure you clean the connectors good and remove the 
> > switch
> > and clean up the rusty connectors on the back as well. When you 
> put 
> > them
> > back together it is a good idea to use some grease to keep it 
> from
> > occurring again. Also I swapped out the inline blade fuse holder 
> > since
> > the connections in it were not in good shape either.
> > If you need any other info just holler. I have the FSM and parts
> > listings for the 1641 and all most attachments as well.
> > 
> > Steve Williams
> > Near Cooperstown NY
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mike S Meulenberg" <msm10301 at juno.com>
> > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:03 PM
> > Subject: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi All,
> > > I have an interesting problem with my mowing tractor, a Cub 
> Cadet
> > 1641. I
> > > was mowing with the tractor, and shut it off, when I went to 
> > restart
> > it ,
> > > all I got was a rapid clicking sound from the solenoid next to 
> > the
> > > battery. I've checked all the grounds I could find, and cleaned 
> 
> > them
> > up,
> > > still the problem persists. The voltage reading across the 
> > battery
> > > terminals is 12.07 v. The battery had been getting weaker for 
> the 
> > last
> > > several weeks, sometimes requiring a jump to start the tractor. 
> I
> > tried
> > > charging the battery, as well as jumping the tractor from my 
> > truck
> > with
> > > no success. I called the dealer's service dept. and they thought 
> 
> > it
> > might
> > > be an ignition switch, or a bad ground.
> > > I'm not sure how to test an ignition switch. Any thoughts.
> > >
> > > Thanks much,
> > > Mike
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