[AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641

Wed Sep 8 19:31:22 PDT 2004

Steve i can't figure that out. you and Cecil must be many many miles apart 
or that owner would have called Cecil to come and get it.[grins]
R Fink
PA

At 01:31 AM 9/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Don't you just hate those "deals". I picked up a 1 year old 4500 watt
>Honda generator at a yard sale. The owner said he had enough
>of the POS because it didn't run right. Turns out he had put mixed gas
>in it and it loaded up on oil. New plug and some SeaFoam and
>about an hour labor plus the original 100 bucks......
>
>
>Steve Williams
>Near Cooperstown NY
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
>To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:43 PM
>Subject: RE: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641
>
>
> > Pull the starter, Mike.  If it won't turn over with a direct
>connection
> > to the lug on the side of the starter motor, there's a real problem.
>I
> > found a mower like this once (it happened to be at a Cub Cadet
> > dealership) where the crank was actually stuck.  The dealer was
> > convinced that the engine had a broken piston in it and cut me a real
> > deal on it.  When I got it home, I found all that had happened was
>that
> > the plastic starter gear had sheared off a couple of teeth and they
>had
> > jammed in the flywheel.  It cost me something like 68 cents to repair
> > the thing.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mike S
> > Meulenberg
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:13 PM
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: Re: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641
> >
> > Ok,
> > Here's what I tried tonight. I took apart the battery connections just
> > to
> > be sure their was no corrosion. I checked the plug on the back of the
> > ignition switch, and there was no melting of any kind. While I was
>doing
> > this, I had the battery on a charger to get it fully charged. I put
> > everything back together and tried the jumper method. Here are the
> > results all done with the key off:
> >
> > 1. Positive bat. terminal to the first terminal on the solenoid - no
> > cranking plenty of sparks
> > 2. Positive bat. terminal to the second terminal on the solenoid - no
> > cranking still plenty sparks
> > 3. Positive bat. terminal directly to the starter lug - sparks, no
> > cranking.
> > Did I do something wrong here?
> > I also pulled the battery out of my truck and hooked it up the best I
> > could, solenoid fluttered, only much faster. Any other ideas, I'm glad
>I
> > have a backup mower....
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:49:41 -0500 "Larry D. Goss"
> > <rlgoss at evansville.net>
> > writes:
> > > Umph.  You're right, Steve.  I had forgotten about the "melted
> > > connector" problem.  I've run into several of them on Cub Cadets.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Steve W.
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:32 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >  Common problem on the Cubs is the connector on the back of the
> > > ignition
> > > switch. They tend to melt. My 1641 had melted the plastic connector
> > > to
> > > the point that the battery didn't charge and the tractor would just
> > > die
> > > without warning. What you do is pull the battery out, reach in and
> > > pull
> > > the connector off the back of the switch. You will probably find
> > > the
> > > plastic is fried. All is not lost though. The outer plastic is the
> > > same
> > > as the one used on the PTO switch. On mine the three places for the
> > > PTO
> > > connections were fine and I just pulled the spade connectors out
> > > using a
> > > small screwdriver to release them and swapped the plastic shields
> > > around, make sure you clean the connectors good and remove the
> > > switch
> > > and clean up the rusty connectors on the back as well. When you put
> > > them
> > > back together it is a good idea to use some grease to keep it from
> > > occurring again. Also I swapped out the inline blade fuse holder
> > > since
> > > the connections in it were not in good shape either.
> > > If you need any other info just holler. I have the FSM and parts
> > > listings for the 1641 and all most attachments as well.
> > >
> > > Steve Williams
> > > Near Cooperstown NY
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike S Meulenberg" <msm10301 at juno.com>
> > > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:03 PM
> > > Subject: [AT] OT-Problem with Cub Cadet 1641
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > I have an interesting problem with my mowing tractor, a Cub Cadet
> > > 1641. I
> > > > was mowing with the tractor, and shut it off, when I went to
> > > restart
> > > it ,
> > > > all I got was a rapid clicking sound from the solenoid next to
> > > the
> > > > battery. I've checked all the grounds I could find, and cleaned
> > > them
> > > up,
> > > > still the problem persists. The voltage reading across the
> > > battery
> > > > terminals is 12.07 v. The battery had been getting weaker for the
> > > last
> > > > several weeks, sometimes requiring a jump to start the tractor. I
> > > tried
> > > > charging the battery, as well as jumping the tractor from my
> > > truck
> > > with
> > > > no success. I called the dealer's service dept. and they thought
> > > it
> > > might
> > > > be an ignition switch, or a bad ground.
> > > > I'm not sure how to test an ignition switch. Any thoughts.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks much,
> > > > Mike
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