[AT] Tire ballast - antifreeze wins

Tue Sep 7 17:43:24 PDT 2004

I work in Akron. What brought you here from NY?
Mark Greer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Tire ballast - antifreeze wins

> We took a trip to Akron, Ohio soon after posting the original note, so I
> haven't been around to answer any comments.  Antifreeze in the first drum
> tested to -40F (or was it -50?) - it floated all 5 balls in the tester so
it
> was really potent stuff.  Didn't test the second one, it looked a little
> greener than the first, but that just might have been cleaner.  I guess we
> tend to make sure we have plenty of protection in our cars around here!
>
> I have one of the fancy transfer valves, but because of the way I was
> transferring there should have been a shutoff valve between it and the
> pressure line from the drum.  Then it could work as advertised.  I just
used
> it for the adapters.
>
> When I started transferring liquid, I was extremely cautious on the first
> few pressurizations.  Most of the transfer took place at 3 to 3.5 PSI.  I
> inched up to 5 PSI at the start of the second drum as it was nearly full
and
> had little room for air.  Figured the worse it would do is make a mess,
and
> I really wanted to see what it would take.  I don't know what the drums
will
> really take since grandpappy never let me real close to the still when I
was
> really young :-).  Figured 3-5 PSI had to be pretty safe considering the
> shock and g forces that these have to take in normal handling and
> transportation.  Your sensibilities and tolerance for experimentation may
> vary.
>
> I understand the concern for pets, but my tractors spend most of their
lives
> locked in the barn.  If a mouse drinks some, it saves on the costs of
> Warfarin.  The tires are all in excellent shape and there is very little
> danger of them leaking any time soon.  It is another risk that I
consciously
> assume.
> Carl Gogol
> Manlius, NY
> (2) AC D-14, AC 914H
> Simplicity 3112 & 7116
> Kubota F-2400
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 8:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [AT] Tire ballast - antifreeze wins
>
>
> > Sure sounds like a good deal, Carl.  How strong did the waste anti
freeze
> > test???  Probably at least 20 or 30 below?
> >
> > Charlie V.
> >
> >
> > >From: "carl gogol" <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > ><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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> > >Subject: [AT] Tire ballast - antifreeze wins
> > >Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 20:12:16 -0400
> > >
> > >Last winter I solicited opinions from the list concerning tire ballast.
> I
> > >finally took the plunge yesterday and decided that I had enough time to
> do
> > >the job.  I called up a local junkyard, er recycler, and asked him how
> much
> > >for 90 gallons of old antifreeze solution.  He asked me what it was for
> and
> > >when I told him he commented that, "you don't need good stuff - come
and
> > >get
> > >it - for free"!   I noticed quite a bit of oil on the surface of the
mix,
> > >so
> > >I made up a simple extraction / separation tool with a 3/4" pipe tee,
> using
> > >both a Schrader valve for pressurizing the barrel and a tube from 1/2"
> > >CPVC,
> > >boring the normal male pipe adapter so the tube could pass through the
> TEE
> > >to within about 4" of the bottom of the drum.  This way I could pump
the
> AF
> > >from under the oil by slightly pressuring the 55 gallon drum.  I found
> the
> > >drums could take at least 5 PSI and then pushed the AF into the tubes.
I
> > >had to disconnect and let the air out of the tractor's tube 4-5 times
to
> > >get
> > >the level to 80% full.  A bit time consuming, but got them both full in
> > >about 3 hours.  Got a system down and the second one took half as long
as
> > >the first.
> > >
> > >Tried the tractor using the loader and it easily pushed the 6' blade
into
> a
> > >pile of rocks and sod, digging a good bucket load that it just wouldn't
> > >have
> > >been able to do before.  I'm sure Calcium would have done a little
more,
> > >but
> > >this is a huge improvement.  I may go get another 2 drums and fill the
> > >other
> > >D-14 and then take the steel wheel weights and put them on the loader
> > >tractor too.  I think that will result in a very satisfactory loader
> > >tractor.
> > >
> > >Only one bit of excitement, when I repressurized the first tire, I was
> sure
> > >the valve stem was leaking.  After  putting some air in, there was a
> > >hissing
> > >sound.  At first it was very depressing as I thought I would have to
take
> > >it
> > >all out and get a new tube.  I put some more air in and again it all
> leaked
> > >out.  I put some more in and it too hissed out!  I put 11 PSI in and it
> > >stopped leaking --- It was just air trapped between the tube and the
rim
> > >pushing out through the valve stem hole in the rim!  The second tire
did
> > >exactly the same thing - it didn't panic me this time.
> > >Carl Gogol
> > >Manlius, NY
> > >(2) AC D-14, AC 914H
> > >Simplicity 3112 & 7116
> > >Kubota F-2400
> > >Carl Gogol
> > >Manlius, NY
> > >(2) AC D-14, AC 914H
> > >Simplicity 3112 & 7116
> > >Kubota F-2400
> > >
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