[AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner

Merle W. Johnson wjohnson at bigriver.net
Tue Oct 12 18:34:17 PDT 2004


Boy, am I impressed.  Doesn't sound much like ADJ stuff.
Merle

bwhdon wrote:

> No frank,
> Engineer for Bishop Calif  fire dept 14 years, fire fighter structure,
> wildland,  nevada division of forestry 16 years , 2 years BLM engine
> foremen, oil fire school instructor calif office of state fire marshall 4
> years. Worked on some boilers never a steam engine yet.  What did you do ?
> fill coal cars for trains.
>
> Don
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank" <gremaux at tein.net>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
>
> > oops .sorry I see you were a fireman...not a firefighter....you work on
> > boilers or steam traction engines?
> >
> > Frank
> > gremaux at tein.net
> > Central Montana
> > www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bwhdon" <acton at onramp.bz>
> > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
> >
> >
> > > as a fireman with 30 years of service, gasoline wont' burn, the fumes
> burn
> > > so I would never use it in any building with a sorce of ignition. Which
> > > other cleaners besides soap and water don't give of fumes that can
> ignite?
> > >
> > > Don
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Frank" <gremaux at tein.net>
> > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
> > >
> > >
> > > > because as a retired firefighter,  I said so!!
> > > > gasoline does burn and ignition by way of a pilot light from your
> > furnace
> > > > (even several rooms away) will indeed cause a fire!
> > > > there are other cleaners that will not burn on the market!
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > > gremaux at tein.net
> > > > Central Montana
> > > > www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "bwhdon" <acton at onramp.bz>
> > > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 7:24 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Why Frank.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Frank" <gremaux at tein.net>
> > > > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > don't use gas(gasoline) to clean anything in!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > gremaux at tein.net
> > > > > > Central Montana
> > > > > > www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Luke Tonneberger" <jdgp1930 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > > > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:32 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air
> Cleaner
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Greg and Everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have some old gas to clean the air cleaner in. Do
> > > > > > > you think that the gas will hurt it if it is the
> > > > > > > natural fiber material?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How much oil should be in the valve chamber on top of
> > > > > > > the engine? I had this apart recently and there was
> > > > > > > maybe a cups worth in there. Wasn't very much at all
> > > > > > > and not enough to come up and make contact with the
> > > > > > > valve stems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I got out the GP this afternoon and had a look at it.
> > > > > > > The radiator was still leaking so I put some Barrs
> > > > > > > stop leak in there that I picked up on Friday after
> > > > > > > work. It actually worked so far. I was pretty happy at
> > > > > > > that and very impressed. So far so good anyway.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then I was still having a fuel problem on it. I put a
> > > > > > > new screen in the sediment bowl a couple weeks ago. I
> > > > > > > suspected this was causing a fuel restriction so I
> > > > > > > took it out and tried running it without the screen.
> > > > > > > Same problem, had to choke it to keep it running. I
> > > > > > > stuck my arm through the gas tank opening on top of
> > > > > > > the fuel tank and poked around in the tube where the
> > > > > > > fuel goes into the sediment bowl. Quite a bit of rust
> > > > > > > and crud ended up in the sediment bowl. Then I took
> > > > > > > the bowl back off and poked up into the tank from the
> > > > > > > bottom with a wire and a big fuzzy chunk came out. I
> > > > > > > put it all back together and turned the fuel on. The
> > > > > > > fuel came shooting into the sediment bowl instead of
> > > > > > > trickling in like it did before. The fuel problem was
> > > > > > > fixed and now it runs great with no choke at, just
> > > > > > > like it should. It just couldn't flow fast enough to
> > > > > > > the carb with a big fuzzy blocking the fuel line. I
> > > > > > > was thrilled to have the radiator and fuel problem
> > > > > > > fixed on it today.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Luke Tonneberger
> > > > > > > Rockford, Michigan
> > > > > > > USA
> > > > > > > ============================
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > greg at theoldtractorcompany.com wrote:
> > > > > > > I suspect your air cleaner element is of natural
> > > > > > > fibers so take care when cleaning it.
> > > > > > > Also something to check is to make sure there is oil
> > > > > > > in your valve chamber on top of the engine. The old
> > > > > > > books aren't too clear on this but some oil is
> > > > > > > required to keep the valve stems lubricated. If not,
> > > > > > > then the valves tend to stick intermittently and the
> > > > > > > engine will pop/stumble/etc
> > > > > > > Just a thought
> > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg Stephen
> > > > > > > The Old Tractor Company
> > > > > > > Stephen Equipment Company
> > > > > > > Box 709
> > > > > > > 7460 E Hiway 86
> > > > > > > Franktown, CO 80116
> > > > > > > 303-663-5246
> > > > > > > 303-688-4170 fax
> > > > > > >
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