[AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner

Tue Oct 12 16:11:05 PDT 2004

I don't have to look them up
but it was not my place to do so....just friendly advice about gasoline....
If you were just testing my knowledge......forget it......not the place for
it!

Frank
gremaux at tein.net
Central Montana
www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "bwhdon" <acton at onramp.bz>
To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
<antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner

> Yes frank there are safer flamable liquids to use than gasoline. I just
> thought maybe you knew some of the top of your head , but if you have to
> look them up in a book that tells a lot of your knowledge.
> Don
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank" <gremaux at tein.net>
> To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
>
>
> > Don:
> > I wouldn't particularly use it as a cleaner outside a building either
...
> > There are a bunch of cleaners besides soap and water that are one hell
of
> a
> > lot safer than gasoline!!  I am not going to look up a bunch just for
you
> !
> > you know better or.....
> > Guess your department don't go to fires......
> > Frank
> > gremaux at tein.net
> > Central Montana
> > www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bwhdon" <acton at onramp.bz>
> > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
> >
> >
> > > as a fireman with 30 years of service, gasoline wont' burn, the fumes
> burn
> > > so I would never use it in any building with a sorce of ignition.
Which
> > > other cleaners besides soap and water don't give of fumes that can
> ignite?
> > >
> > > Don
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Frank" <gremaux at tein.net>
> > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
> > >
> > >
> > > > because as a retired firefighter,  I said so!!
> > > > gasoline does burn and ignition by way of a pilot light from your
> > furnace
> > > > (even several rooms away) will indeed cause a fire!
> > > > there are other cleaners that will not burn on the market!
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > > gremaux at tein.net
> > > > Central Montana
> > > > www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "bwhdon" <acton at onramp.bz>
> > > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 7:24 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air Cleaner
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Why Frank.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Frank" <gremaux at tein.net>
> > > > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air
Cleaner
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > don't use gas(gasoline) to clean anything in!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > gremaux at tein.net
> > > > > > Central Montana
> > > > > > www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Luke Tonneberger" <jdgp1930 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: "Antique John Deere mailing list"
> > > > > > <antique-johndeere at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:32 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [AJD] 1930 GP Leaky Radiator, Ensign Carb, Air
> Cleaner
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Greg and Everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have some old gas to clean the air cleaner in. Do
> > > > > > > you think that the gas will hurt it if it is the
> > > > > > > natural fiber material?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How much oil should be in the valve chamber on top of
> > > > > > > the engine? I had this apart recently and there was
> > > > > > > maybe a cups worth in there. Wasn't very much at all
> > > > > > > and not enough to come up and make contact with the
> > > > > > > valve stems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I got out the GP this afternoon and had a look at it.
> > > > > > > The radiator was still leaking so I put some Barrs
> > > > > > > stop leak in there that I picked up on Friday after
> > > > > > > work. It actually worked so far. I was pretty happy at
> > > > > > > that and very impressed. So far so good anyway.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then I was still having a fuel problem on it. I put a
> > > > > > > new screen in the sediment bowl a couple weeks ago. I
> > > > > > > suspected this was causing a fuel restriction so I
> > > > > > > took it out and tried running it without the screen.
> > > > > > > Same problem, had to choke it to keep it running. I
> > > > > > > stuck my arm through the gas tank opening on top of
> > > > > > > the fuel tank and poked around in the tube where the
> > > > > > > fuel goes into the sediment bowl. Quite a bit of rust
> > > > > > > and crud ended up in the sediment bowl. Then I took
> > > > > > > the bowl back off and poked up into the tank from the
> > > > > > > bottom with a wire and a big fuzzy chunk came out. I
> > > > > > > put it all back together and turned the fuel on. The
> > > > > > > fuel came shooting into the sediment bowl instead of
> > > > > > > trickling in like it did before. The fuel problem was
> > > > > > > fixed and now it runs great with no choke at, just
> > > > > > > like it should. It just couldn't flow fast enough to
> > > > > > > the carb with a big fuzzy blocking the fuel line. I
> > > > > > > was thrilled to have the radiator and fuel problem
> > > > > > > fixed on it today.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Luke Tonneberger
> > > > > > > Rockford, Michigan
> > > > > > > USA
> > > > > > > ============================
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > greg at theoldtractorcompany.com wrote:
> > > > > > > I suspect your air cleaner element is of natural
> > > > > > > fibers so take care when cleaning it.
> > > > > > > Also something to check is to make sure there is oil
> > > > > > > in your valve chamber on top of the engine. The old
> > > > > > > books aren't too clear on this but some oil is
> > > > > > > required to keep the valve stems lubricated. If not,
> > > > > > > then the valves tend to stick intermittently and the
> > > > > > > engine will pop/stumble/etc
> > > > > > > Just a thought
> > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg Stephen
> > > > > > > The Old Tractor Company
> > > > > > > Stephen Equipment Company
> > > > > > > Box 709
> > > > > > > 7460 E Hiway 86
> > > > > > > Franktown, CO 80116
> > > > > > > 303-663-5246
> > > > > > > 303-688-4170 fax
> > > > > > >
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