[AJD] Listed Crop Cultivator

Mon Nov 29 18:40:18 PST 2004

Dean, the part numbers are a4118r and a4117r, I find them on the same
page as the ROM in my 70 manual...I am looking for one to lock my ROM
when I eventually get a 227 picker.. I have been told by old timers that
it makes it easier to steer with all that weight on the front.. And
reduces the load on the gears in the ROM section...   I got the aluminum
Fuel bowl, and a parts 227S just need to get the right 227 now...
Dennis

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Subject: RE: [AJD] Listed Crop Cultivator

Ron & Dennis:

I have always wanted to see what a ROM lock looked like. Anyone have a
picture or refer me to a parts catalog that shows one. I've also
wondered
why the locks were used when a tractor could be purchase with a non-Rom
front end. But I guess I can see where the lock was only needed in
certain
situations. 

I know when we were still checking corn, the fields got really rough.
And
then we disked diagonally too. 

I've also seen where one front wheel could be extended in front of the
other
on a ROM. That would have been really helpful when cross cultivating. 

Lot's of gadgets we never saw on our farm. I guess we were just tough
old
buggers and used guts and glory to get through this stuff. 

I do know that a cab on the tractor would have made life a lot more
comfortable in the spring and fall.  Not for heat or air conditioning,
just
to slow down the stinking wind and dust. All we ever had was a "Heat
Hauser"
and that was primarily used on the loader tractor in the winter. At 40
below
zero that was a real lifesaver, if the Plexiglas didn't crack! I now
wonder
how in the heck we ever got the tractor started. No heated buildings on
our
farm. In fact the house was even questionable about whether it was
really
heated. I do remember snow drifting through the windows sills and the
chamber pots freezing at night. I'm not sure our old house even slowed
down
the wind. It was a real joy when a new house was built in 1948. We were
in
pig heaven! Even had indoor toilets and running water. 

I see the farmers now out in the fully enclosed air conditioned cabs
with
stereo, GPS and radio communications and I wonder how we ever got
anything
done.  I found out that the cab alone on one of my brothers tractors
cost
more than any complete tractor I ever had the opportunity to use in the
40's
& 50's. Maybe that is why I left the farm!

I have a fetish about cold today. It dropped down to 25 degrees here
last
night. That is cold for us folks who live near the coast. That is only
65
degrees warmer than some weather I worked in, in NW Iowa years ago. What
a
city wimp.

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
storeroom door 

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Of
Cotton Family
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [AJD] Listed Crop Cultivator

Speaking of the ROM lock for the front wheels, anybody know where I
could find one????

Dennis

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[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf
Of Ronald L. Cook
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [AJD] Listed Crop Cultivator

Dean,

Dean VP wrote:

> Don:
> 
> As a teenage boy I cultivated a lot of corn but not listed corn.
After the
> noon meal when the weather was hot and humid, it was difficult to stay
awake
> on the slow moving tractor. Occasionally a few stalks of corn would
get
> plowed under.
Yep!
  I would think that it would really be a challenge to stay on
> top of the ridge at all times. Maybe those who drove listed corn
cultivators
> got home on time the night before!  :-) 
Nope!
> 
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290

Here is the way we did it.
Be sure not to list too deep, then the ridges will be somewhat flat on 
the top center.  Put the Roll-O-Matic lock on the front if the tractor 
is equipped with that front end.  If a wide front tractor(not a very 
good deal in this case) adjust the width to run on the center of the 
ridges.  Install the skeleton wheels on the rear and set them to ride on

the center of the ridges.  In our case, we had 40 inch row spacing, so 
our wheels were set at 80 inches.  Some folks didn't have a set of 
skeleton wheels for their tractors and had to go with rubber tires. 
Much harder to keep on the ridges and also have a tendency to compact 
the ridges making the cultivation less than satisfactory in my opinion.

Okay, I think that handles throwing out.  The ridges are now narrowed 
and peaked up.  Next cultivation is throwing in.

The tricycle tractor has the Roll-O-Matic locked and the wheels reversed

or spacers installed if non-reversable wheels to set the wheels at its 
widest spacing.  The wide front tractor has its wheel spacing narrowed 
so as to allow the the front wheels to run on the inside bottom edge of 
the ridge next to the row.  The skeleton wheels are set in to run on the

inside bottom edge of the ridge also.  This set-up is the one where you 
can stay out too late and still stay on the row.  A non power steering 
tractor will pretty much just follow the ridges from one end of the 
field to the other.

My Dad used to get upset with me putting on the fenders during this 
cultivation time.(he didn't like the things)  But those fenders stopped 
that flash flash flash in my eyes from the shiny skeleton lugs.  That 
really put me to sleep even if I had got home at a decent hour.

I hope I got it close to right.  It's been fifty years.  I have the '48 
A and the fenders.  My Dad is using the skeleton wheels as lawn 
ornaments and the 4-row listed corn cultivators are long gone as are 
listed crops around here.

Ron Cook
Salix, IA

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