[AT] McCormick Tractor

Dave Ernst dadadidi at cccomm.net
Sat Nov 13 16:41:56 PST 2004


Yea, that story has been convoluted for some time. When the Binder was 
introduced in Europe the claim was the hay was tied by mechanical means and 
that they claim precluded Applebee by a few years.
Who really knows for sure.  Maybe one stole from the other....
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Fay" <fayguyma at execpc.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 4:35 PM
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> That would in fact be a major surprise to Cyrus McCormick. John Applebee 
> invented the twine knotter. McCormick Harvesting Machine Company built 
> twine binders under liscense, essentially- the story is very convoluted as 
> to how McCormick company got the liscense.
>
> Dave Ernst wrote:
>
>> A little tidbit here, Did you know that Cyrus McCormick invented a twine 
>> knotter in the 1880's for bailing hay that with minor modifications is 
>> still being used in the new bailing machines today?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Strobel" 
>> <Richard_Strobel7 at msn.com>
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>>> Thanks for taking the time and effort gentlemen.  I will check it out 
>>> some more.
>>>
>>> Take Care,
>>> RickinMt.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Fay" <fayguyma at execpc.com>
>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
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>>> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:33 AM
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>>>
>>>> Louis is right.
>>>>
>>>> International Harvester brand naming is something that just confuses 
>>>> the
>>>> heck out of people today. There wasn't one set of rules that carried
>>>> over time- what name a tractor received depended on when it was built.
>>>>
>>>> IH used the "McCormick-Deering" name on all farm tractors starting in
>>>> 1923. The Farmall was officially the McCormick-Deering Farmall, 
>>>> although
>>>> people seldom called it that.
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere in here tractors sold to industrial markets started receiving
>>>> the International name.
>>>>
>>>> In 1949, the Deering was removed, and tractors became McCormicks.
>>>>
>>>> In 1954, the Non-Farmalls started using the International name.
>>>>
>>>> Louis Spiegelberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I might be off base, I am not much of an IH guy, but I will take a
>>>> stab >at
>>>> >this.  I think McCormick tractors are the standard model tractors
>>>> that >were
>>>> >built by IH.  Such as the W4, O4,etc...  I think the 4 series used the
>>>> >Farmall H powertrain. The Farmall name was used on row crop
>>>> tractors.  I
>>>> >don't know if this helps you, but this is about my extent of
>>>> knowledge >of IH
>>>> >history.
>>>> >
>>>> >Lou
>>>> >
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> >[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
>>>> >Strobel
>>>> >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:59 AM
>>>> >To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> >Subject: [AT] McCormick Tractor
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Howdy all;
>>>> >  Did Cyrus build a McCormick tractor?  Been told there's no
>>>> mention of
>>>> >Deering anywhere?  From a distance it appears red and is on rubber.
>>>> >
>>>> >  How would you rate it on the "Desirable Scale" of 1 to 10 for an
>>>> ole > iron
>>>> >collector?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Thanks much
>>>> >RickinMt.
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