Ford axle seal (was Re: [AT] Jap tractors

Sun Nov 7 14:28:05 PST 2004

bwhdon wrote:
> Thanks Mike,
> 
> now a question of a New Holland, I have a 3430 that leaks hydrolic trans
> fluid at the rear wheel , is the seal inside the rear end for this , and do
> you have to split the tractor to fix it? how many hour job is this for a new
> holland dealer?
I freely admit that I have no answer for you, Don: I was not a mechanic 
at the dealership, only the salesman (and, as we all know, you can never 
believe anything the salesman tells you!). And my newest Ford is an 860, 
so my own experience is somewhat limited.

But if I had to guess, I would say that the seal is like most other 
tractors, with the seal at the end of the axle housing, not inside. The 
big question becomes: why is the seal leaking? Unless something got 
jammed between the wheel and the seal and forced itself into the seal, 
the other most common reason for axle seals leaking is a bent axle. If 
the seal is just damaged from the outside, the replacement should not be 
an expensive job. But if the axle is bent, then you need to figure on a 
little more expense. On the positive side, I don't ever recall a 3430 
coming in that required replacing an axle - that is a pretty solid tractor.

Mike
> 
> thanks
> 
> Don
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Sloane" <mikesloane at verizon.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Jap tractors
> 
> 
> 
>>The New Holland tractor and farm equipment dealership where I used to
>>work until this June was an authorized Yanmar dealer for excavators and
>>loaders, and they were well supported. But aside from filters, they
>>rarely needed any servicing. The machines we sold differed slightly from
>>the Japanese versions in having US specified ROPS and other safety
>>hardware and markings. The excavators were nice to operate - virtually
>>every operation, except track movement and boom swing (foot pedals), was
>>done with two joysticks and very light on the touch. I was told the
>>engines were similar to the JD compact tractor engines, but I don't know
>>about the rest of the JD running gear. We had a few requests for parts
>>for Yanmar tractors but were unable to locate any (although the parts
>>guys didn't try at all after they found that the machines were gray
> 
> market).
> 
>>Mike
>>
>>HaliganBar at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The explanation I got was that Yanmar stopped selling tractors under
> 
> their
> 
>>>name in the US when they entered into the agreement with JD. Apparently
> 
> it was
> 
>>>part of a non-compete clause of the contract. I know people who
> 
> purchased
> 
>>>Yanmar stuff prior to the JD deal and they are very happy with them.
> 
> I've also
> 
>>>recently noticed Yanmar mini-excavators around. Not sure if they are
> 
> gray-market
> 
>>>or if they are not included in the JD deal.
>>>
>>>Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 11/7/04 9:46:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>mikesloane at verizon.net writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The main problem with most of them is that parts are virtually
>>>>impossible to obtain. Shibaura makes the engines and drivetrains for the
>>>>New Holland and Case IH lines of compact tractors. Yanmar are excellent
>>>>machines (hydraulic excavators and articulated loaders), but they have
>>>>not sold tractors in the US for several years.
>>>>
>>>>I am sure there is a market, but I don't think that you will find a long
>>>>term proposition after the word gets around that you are selling "gray
>>>>market" stuff. Yanmar is one company that goes after gray market dealers
>>>>with legal action, but I don't know about the others. (Yanmar runs full
>>>>page ads in the construction magazines warning people not to buy gray
>>>>market tractors.). For one think, they don't usually meet most the
>>>>various US safety codes, so you could find yourself legally liable if
>>>>there were damages resulting lack of one or more safety features.
>>>>
>>>>I think you need to do a little more research before you invest any of
>>>>your own money in such a proposition.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>bwhdon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>any of you folks know any thing about Shibaura, Mitsubishi, Yanmar
> 
> tractors
> 
>>>>>or have one ?  I have been approached by a fella that buys jap
>>>>
>>>>reconditoined
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>units from japan and sells them , suppose to be like new and about 1/2
>>>>
>>>>price
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>of the new . most are in the 8k range 20-34 hp 4 wheel drive with a
> 
> loader
> 
>>>>>and 3pt.. he wanted to know if there would be a market in my area and
> 
> might
> 
>>>>>take me on as a area seller.  I don't know the tractors or there
> 
> quality
> 
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>work capabilities . Any thoughts on these tractors?
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always 
so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. -Bertrand
Russell, philosopher, mathematician, author, Nobel laureate (1872-1970)