[AJD] 50 Hitch questions

[Dean VP]

Gordon:

I'm having trouble visualizing the brackets you are referring to. If you are
talking about aftermarket P838A's the answer to that is no. However, they
could be fabricated by an inventive type. 

Dean A. Van Peursem
Snohomish, WA 98290

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-----Original Message-----
From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
[mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Gordon Hart
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 2:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [AJD] 50 Hitch questions

Are the Brackets I spoke of earlier sold aftermarket. I supect the PO cut or
drilled a larger hole in the drawbar assembly and installed a hitch pin like
you buy for brush hog connections to 3pt.

Gordon

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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: [AJD] 50 Hitch questions


> Gordon:
>
> Ok, now I understand. I'm a little slow!  :-)  As soon as you mentioned
> P838A I knew exactly what the issue was. The fork legs on the P838A's have
> been spread apart by being stressed when the two lower draft arms swing
out
> too far. This happens when the anti-sway chains are not used or connected.
> In my experience the legs on the P838A's will spread, then crack and
> eventually break off. The space between the two legs should be only a
little
> bit wider than the draft arm ear they fit around. The pipe spacers have
been
> added as a farmer expediency fix.
>
> The two legs of the P838A fork can be brought back to where they should be
> but I would recommend that it be done by preheating in a very hot oven so
> that the cast iron doesn't crack or break. Of all the pieces of the hitch
> the P838A's are probably the ones with the highest incidence of being
> cracked or welded other than the lower draft arms themselves.
>
> Apparently P838A's are still replaced so often that JD still sells them
NOS.
> JD has them for a nice tidy sum of $71.00 each. "OUCH!" One of the few 800
> series hitch parts that still can be purchased from JD NOS. Installing the
> right length connecting pin and hairpin will also prohibit the legs from
> spreading too far. The PO probably lost the original pins and installed a
> bolt that was too small and too long allowing the legs to be spread.
>
> Two avoid damaging the P838A's again make sure the anti-sway chains are
> connected up properly to the drawbar before the hitch is used again.
> Reproduction chains, two small clevises and the two special large drawbar
> clevises setup are reproduced and sold for about $100 a set plus freight.
>
> Probably not entirely what you wanted to hear but it's one of the
weaknesses
> of the 800 series hitches. However, with the proper use of the chains and
> the right connecting pin, the P838A's won't get damaged.
>
> Finding good used P838A's is next to impossible. I have several 800 series
> hitches here and to make them whole again I have had to buy new P838A's as
I
> couldn't find non broken P838A's used. When one tries to restore an 800
> series hitch it is quickly learned why sellers of restored hitches need to
> get so much for them. Just to break even.
>
>
> Dean A. Van Peursem
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> I'm a walking storeroom of facts..... I've just lost the key to the
> storeroom door
>
>
> www.deerelegacy.com
>
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:antique-johndeere-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Gordon Hart
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 8:50 AM
> To: 'Antique John Deere mailing list'
> Subject: [AJD] 50 Hitch questions
>
> Dean
>
> Let me restate # 3 . The LH & RH Fork (P838A) is so wide where it connects
> to the ear on the front links ( DA5864A,DA5862A) that two pipe spacers
about
> 1/2" long had to be used on the pin( which on mine is a bolt) beside the
ear
> and between the fork.
>
> Gordon
>
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