[AT] Was: Farmall tractor; Now, valve stems

Tue May 11 07:06:13 PDT 2004

Mark,

Thanks for looking.  The bent stem would be helpful in some cases where the
wheel is stuck on the end of an axle, but in this case is would interfere
with the yoke.  The ideal would be a stem bent sideways so it all remains in
the small cavity between the rim, hub, and yoke.  My Dixon has such stems...
also on 4.10/3.50 x 4.

George Willer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Greer" <greerfam at raex.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Was: Farmall tractor; Now, valve stems

> George,
> I was mistaken about there being a TR87 tubeless tire valve shorter than a
> TR13. I knew I used the TR87 somewhere and I finally figured it out. The
> TR87 is the designation for a bent valve on a tube for a small tire. The
> valve ends up pointing out the side in the same direction as the axle
which
> alleviates the clearance problem associated with the TR13 tubeless valves.
I
> have a good source for these tubes through my work if you can't find them
> locally-just let me know the tire size.
> Mark
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Willer" <gwill at toast.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Was: Farmall tractor; Now, valve stems
>
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > Those sound like the wheels on my NH 3pt mower.  The TR13's were with it
> > from new... a serious mistake, if something shorter is available.  I'll
> > appreciate it if you can confirm that there's a shorter one.
> >
> > George Willer
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mark Greer" <greerfam at raex.com>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Was: Farmall tractor; Now, valve stems
> >
> >
> > > I seem to remember the number TR87 being a real short stubby valve
stem
> > for
> > > the front wheels on an Exmark commercial walk-behind mower. It had
> > > 4.10x3.50x4 front wheels on a caster style mount and required the
short
> > > stems to clear the caster yoke. Its been a while since I messed with
> that
> > so
> > > I'm not positive but I'll check some catalogs at work when I go back
> > > Wednesday.
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
> > > To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> > > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:38 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [AT] Was: Farmall tractor; Now, valve stems
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ask Farmer or one of the tire dealers that monitor this list if
> there's
> > > > something made that's shorter.
> > > >
> > > > I remember the bladder inside of footballs.  It seems to me we
> basically
> > > > had to tie the thing closed and then fold it up before closing up
the
> > > > lacing.  By the time we got all that done, there wasn't much time
left
> > > > to play football and the next time we got a chance, it was flat
again.
> > > > I know there was no such thing as a Schrader valve on those old
> > > > footballs.
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > > > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of George
> Willer
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:11 PM
> > > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > > Subject: Re: [AT] Was: Farmall tractor; Now, valve stems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I hear you loud and clear on the valve stem problem, George.
Those
> > > > > TR13's are just the wrong length and are always jammed up against
> the
> > > > > hub.
> > > >
> > > > Larry,
> > > >
> > > > The problem here is even more severe.  There is only 1" from the
base
> of
> > > > the
> > > > stem to the hub.  There is also only 1" sideways from the center of
> the
> > > > hole
> > > > to the edge of the rim, and the yoke of the caster runs very close
to
> > > > the
> > > > rim.  It's only possible to remove the cap and get the gauge or air
> > > > chuck on
> > > > by bending the stem sideways.  Every time I do it I'm sure it will
be
> > > > the
> > > > last time.  These tires and rims are about 6 years old, and have
been
> a
> > > > problem right from new.  A stem only half as long as the TR13 would
be
> > > > better, but I doubt they even make one.
> > > >
> > > > I remember the days when footballs and basketballs had a stem that
had
> > > > to be
> > > > tied up behind the lacing... but they got clever many years ago and
> made
> > > > then so they could be inflated with a needle.  Why couldn't we get
> rich
> > > > making the little mower tires inflate the same way?... slobber on
the
> > > > needle
> > > > and insert it through the hole in the sidewall with a built-in
valve?
> > > > The
> > > > market would be HUGE!
> > > >
> > > > The next thing I intend to try is to put a stack of rubber washers
> over
> > > > the
> > > > stem of the tube inside the rim to shorten it.
> > > >
> > > > George Willer
> > > >
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