[AT] Rationale for firing orders

Steve W. falcon at telenet.net
Wed Mar 24 21:48:20 PST 2004


Once it is set up for the strip it has twin turbos with a bottle the new
engine is set up to really like boost. He is worried about the sidewalls
of the block coming apart, and is actually trying to make a billet
block, I bowed out of that one. The beast is REALLY twitchy in strip
clothes, but it still is legal for the street, I doubt I would drive it
very far though, fuel cost would kill me.

Steve Williams
Near Cooperstown NY


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Greer" <greerfam at raex.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders


> A street legal 6 second Buick GNX clone? Is that on the bottle or just
lots
> of boost from the turbo? I'd like to go for a ride in that! About 12
years
> ago when I was still racing a bit a buddy of mine had a bottle fed '62
Vette
> with an iron headed 406 that would run easy mid 9 second quarters and
make
> the 45 mile drive to and from the track. That car ended up running sub
8
> second quarters but it was a bit too radical at that point to do much
street
> driving. That is the quickest street ride I've been a passenger in and
it
> was an absolute blast to cruise in on the weekends. If you can put
together
> a "beater style GNX clone" that will run sub 7-second quarters and
still be
> street legal then I've been away from racin' WAY too long.
Acceleration is
> the ultimate rush. Pictures please!
> Mark Greer
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
>
>
> > 1/4 mile.
> > Steve Williams
> > Near Cooperstown NY
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mark Greer" <greerfam at raex.com>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
> >
> >
> > > You talkin' 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile?
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> > > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
> > >
> > >
> > > > I know a few members of that club.... The last Hi-Po 231 I put
> > together
> > > > got all the goodies, billet crank, rods, pistons, heads were
angle
> > > > shaved and the block was bored and decked, mains bored oversized
and
> > > > centers converted using splayed bolt caps, custom roller cam and
> > > > rockers, the guy is bringing it back for me to final tune the
turbo
> > > > set-up. It is in a "beater style GNX clone". It does have a few
> > > > non-stock items though!!!   I'll have to get a picture of it
when
> > were
> > > > done. He's shooting for an under 7 street car, shouldn't be hard
to
> > get
> > > > in the 6s with this beast.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Rob Wilson" <rowilson at infinet.com>
> > > > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > > > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It's funny that those strange split journal cranks were so
strong.
> > > > That
> > > > > is as long as you got one that has the hydraulic rolled
fillets.
> > They
> > > > are
> > > > > what was used in the Grand Nationals. I've seen stock cranks
run
> > well
> > > > > into the 9s without a problem. Then again guys rebuilding
their
> > motors
> > > > > in their Grand Nationals using standard cranks have joined the
DOC
> > > > > club in a street car. The DOC stands for drive over the crank.
Not
> > a
> > > > > pretty site. Shoots them right out the bottom of the oil pan.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: <BetCleve321 at aol.com>
> > > > > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 3/23/2004 4:51:11 PM Eastern Standard
Time,
> > > > > > falcon at telenet.net writes:
> > > > > > Yep, But they finally got smart and beefed up the crank. The
225
> > and
> > > > odd
> > > > > > fire 231s used common throw cranks, the early even fires
were
> > known
> > > > for
> > > > > > breaking cranks. But they didn't get much smoother till they
> > used
> > > > the
> > > > > > countershaft.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > > The countershaft came later, in late 4.3 liter,262ci., V6
> > engines.
> > > > > > Interesting thread.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Skip
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