[AT] Rationale for firing orders

Rob Wilson rowilson at infinet.com
Wed Mar 24 08:17:38 PST 2004


I find it a little hard to believe since I've been around
these cars for the past 17 years. Not doubting your machining
capabilites but it takes TONS of money and a tube chassis car
to break into the 7s with one of the Buick V6s. A friend
of mine has been at it for years and his car is one of the
fastest in the country running 7.850 @ 176 MPH. This is
from a twin turbo tube chassis car. Basically a pro stock 
car. Another friend runs a tube chassis Opel GT and runs
7.960 @ 172 MPH. 

Rob

> 1/4 mile.
> Steve Williams
> Near Cooperstown NY
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Greer" <greerfam at raex.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
> 
> 
> > You talkin' 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile?
> > Mark
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
> >
> >
> > > I know a few members of that club.... The last Hi-Po 231 I put
> together
> > > got all the goodies, billet crank, rods, pistons, heads were angle
> > > shaved and the block was bored and decked, mains bored oversized 
and
> > > centers converted using splayed bolt caps, custom roller cam and
> > > rockers, the guy is bringing it back for me to final tune the 
turbo
> > > set-up. It is in a "beater style GNX clone". It does have a few
> > > non-stock items though!!!   I'll have to get a picture of it when
> were
> > > done. He's shooting for an under 7 street car, shouldn't be hard 
to
> get
> > > in the 6s with this beast.
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Rob Wilson" <rowilson at infinet.com>
> > > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
> > >
> > >
> > > > It's funny that those strange split journal cranks were so 
strong.
> > > That
> > > > is as long as you got one that has the hydraulic rolled fillets.
> They
> > > are
> > > > what was used in the Grand Nationals. I've seen stock cranks run
> well
> > > > into the 9s without a problem. Then again guys rebuilding their
> motors
> > > > in their Grand Nationals using standard cranks have joined the 
DOC
> > > > club in a street car. The DOC stands for drive over the crank. 
Not
> a
> > > > pretty site. Shoots them right out the bottom of the oil pan.
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: <BetCleve321 at aol.com>
> > > > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:32 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AT] Rationale for firing orders
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 3/23/2004 4:51:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > falcon at telenet.net writes:
> > > > > Yep, But they finally got smart and beefed up the crank. The 
225
> and
> > > odd
> > > > > fire 231s used common throw cranks, the early even fires were
> known
> > > for
> > > > > breaking cranks. But they didn't get much smoother till they
> used
> > > the
> > > > > countershaft.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > > The countershaft came later, in late 4.3 liter,262ci., V6
> engines.
> > > > > Interesting thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > Skip
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