[AT] OK boys, I need help!! OT Computer stuff

Sat Mar 13 06:17:28 PST 2004

I stand corrected. My CRS was stepping in.

The problem was that the 16 bit twain driver does not work with windows 
Xp. XP has supports only the 32 bit twain driver.

The camera dropped support for twain and switched how the data was 
accessed.

The Scanner is not supported because it uses 16bit twain and the 
parallel port for access.

Larry D. Goss wrote:

> Humm.  That's interesting.  I have four different scanners all working
> under XP -- all using TWAIN -- all running interchangeably as either
> directly accessed hardware or through plug-ins to other software.  I'm
> running a half dozen different software packages that use the plug-in
> technique for these scanners.  I have not had to use the compatibility
> mode to make them run.  I treat them as Plug-and-play devices all the
> time.
> 
> I know all about the new driver problem with XP.  When I upgraded from
> Windows ME last year, I ended up downloading 31 new drivers just to make
> the computer run.  I needed everything -- monitor, audio, mouse,
> keyboard, fan control, CD drive, floppy drive, modem, USB, firewire,
> PCMCIA, Memory stick, network, and nearly 20 others that were not so
> clearly labeled.  I did have to download one new driver for a printer,
> and the scanner driver may have been bundled with that, but when all the
> dust settled the TWAIN interface still showed up as a plug-in under
> either the ACQUIRE or the IMPORT commands and still functioned.  Of
> course, it's possible that the new OS simply left the old command
> structure in place and substitutes new commands that are hidden from me
> as a user, but it doesn't act like that.
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> tomehrkam at houston.rr.com
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 4:04 PM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] OK boys, I need help!! OT Computer stuff
> 
> 
> If the driver uses TWAIN. Most older scanners do. XP does not support
> TWAIN. TWAIN was a 16 bit app. NT Does not support it.
> 
> For that reason a new driver is required. That is what happened on my
> Canon G1 and G2 camera. I had to download a new driver application. The
> flash memory is used like a disk drive. The software accesses the images
> by going out to drive # and looking for files.
> 
> My Microtec scanner uses both Twain and the parallel port SCSI emulation
> interface. For that reasion it will never be supported under XP. "That
> is 
> the scanner plugs into the printer port."
> 
> Windows 2000 does support 16 bit apps. It should support more of those
> devices than XP.
> 
> Both Windows 98 and Windows 2000 are nearing end of life. When that 
> happens all the patches may go away. Also they will not make any more
> security patches for those systems.
> 
> Windows 95 is in that fix. No support at all.
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Steve W. falcon at telenet.net
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:49:52 -0500
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] OK boys, I need help!! OT Computer stuff
> 
> 
> Larry,
>  Did you try the NT4 or 2000 drivers for that scanner? They should work.
> 
> Steve Williams
> Near Cooperstown NY
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry D. Goss" <rlgoss at evansville.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:49 AM
> Subject: RE: [AT] OK boys, I need help!! OT Computer stuff
> 
> 
> 
>>As much as I hate "me too" messages, I've got to say it in this case.
>>You're right on, Tom.  I borrowed a really nice negative scanner from
> 
> my
> 
>>cousin so I could digitize several hundred roll film negatives of
> 
> family
> 
>>photos.  The software was expecting to see an Adaptec SCSI port on the
>>system, and even though I configured everything right, XP wouldn't
>>recognize the existence of the right hardware.  It turns out that the
>>drivers from the company won't work on anything newer than 98 and
> 
> since
> 
>>the scanner is five or six years old they have no intention of issuing
> 
> a
> 
>>driver for any of the newer versions of Windows.
>>
>>Bummer.
>>
>>I'm glad to see you commenting about the Microtec scanner problem.
> 
> I'm
> 
>>seriously looking at that brand for roll film negative scanning and
> 
> will
> 
>>investigate thoroughly before I buy.
>>
>>Larry
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Thomas O.
>>Mehrkam
>>Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 6:55 AM
>>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>Subject: Re: [AT] OK boys, I need help!! OT Computer stuff
>>
>>The only problem with XP is that if you have a Scanner that attaches
>>to the parallel port or some cameras you may have to replace them.
> 
> Check
> 
>>on the manufactures web site to see if new drivers are avalible.
>>
>>The just may not be avaliable. I know Canon dropped support for some
>>of thier cameras and film scanners.
>>
>>My microtec scanner would not work.
>>
>>DO not get ME at all costs. Windows 98 is much better than
>>ME. After that WIndows 2000 and then wINDOWS XP
>>
>>CBear81438 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>In a message dated 3/11/2004 8:17:37 PM Central Standard Time,
>>>hlstaples at mcloudteleco.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>98 SE is getting cranky. I bought a flash memory stick but even with
>>>>the driver CD it wouldn't stick in my computer. Time to consider a
> 
> new
> 
>>>>computer and a new OP system.
>>>>
>>>>Where am I going with this long tale?? Right here. What OS is
>>>>recommended:
>>>>2000, or NT (home version) ?? Come on guys-- All thoughts
>>>>considered.
>>>>
>>>>Tractor reference: When I get a new computer, I will run over the
> 
> old
> 
>>>>one with the $#@%& Cub (if it doesn't stall it out) ;-)
>>>>Thanks, Carl in VT
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Carl
>>>My old 98 system uses a usb memory stick.  I had to download the
>>
>>drivers off
>>
>>>the internet.  I used Sandisk brand.
>>>
>>>Cecil in OKla
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