[AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but greatreading

Thu Jun 10 18:18:51 PDT 2004

With all due respect, as I have mentioned earlier you really need to
take some time to visit a school or two.  Believe it or not, schools are
not the amoral, Godless pits that some have made them out to be.  I
agree there are some bad apples out there that need to be dealt with.
However not all are that way and we should be careful not to lump the
good and bad together.

Al

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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but
greatreading

Sure is funny that a lot of kids not getting a good education in the
public
system are electing to go to a private school, and what's wrong with
this
testing kids in the public school to see if they learned any thing, and
making the teachers teach them reading , writing and arithmetic instead
of
sports and computers and no God allowed.

Don

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but
greatreading

> Actually I can read it because my Mother taught me to read and write.
> Real education begins in the home, not in the glorified
> daycare centers we have now.  I do agree Teachers have a hard job
today,
> with parents shirking their duties and then complaining about what
> happens in the schools because of their lack of involvement. However
on
> the other side you have the Teachers who believe they have the right
to
> teach only their beliefs and philosophies regardless of what they are
> supposed to teach. These are the ones who feel justified when they
> confiscate a childs cards that were given to her in church but allow
> others to be given out. Or suspend another student because they had
the
> gall to want to pray. Or their students are tested and come up short
and
> they claim it is entirely because they just don't have enough money to
> buy the latest things. These are the things that make me dislike some
> teachers.
>
> Steve Williams
> Near Cooperstown NY
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Al Jones" <aljones at ncfreedom.net>
> To: "'Antique tractor email discussion group'"
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but
> greatreading
>
>
> > Walt,
> >
> > I have fiddled around with the parts books for my old tractors
enough
> to
> > know that what you talk about isn't terribly easy.  However, I wish
> > teaching was that simple.  In teaching just knowing a subject matter
> > isn't enough.  You have to know how to TEACH it.  And do it in a way
> > that reaches every student, regardless of learning style, mental,
> > physical, social, emotional difficulty, etc.  And I tell you, from
> what
> > I have seen (I teach high school, Agriculture) Elementary teachers
> have
> > a MUCH harder job that high school teachers in some respects,
> > particularly due to the developmental differences  between the ages.
> It
> > would terrify me to try to teach a class full of second graders!  As
> to
> > that third grade teacher, what certification(s) does she hold?  What
> > kind of degree does she have?  What sort of supplement does her
school
> > system pay in addition to the standard salary?  How many years of
> > service does she have?  My point is, don't put down anybody in
> education
> > based upon what grade/level/subject they teach.  Every link in the
> chain
> > is important.
> >
> > Make no mistake, I do not intend to belittle any other
> > job/career/profession.  And yes, believe it or not, teaching IS a
> > profession, and it doesn't end with the last bell for the students
to
> go
> > home!!
> >
> > I would just ask anyone that thinks teaching is "easy" or that
> teachers
> > don't have a "real job" to go spend a day or two in a school.  I
think
> > you'll be surprised.  There are two statements I live by: First, if
> you
> > ate today, thank a farmer.  If you can read this, thank a teacher!
> >
> > Al
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> > DAVIESW739 at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:53 PM
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but
> > greatreading
> >
> > Al try working on about 100 different pieces of  Heavy equipment and
> > then try
> > to memorize all of the service manuals and remember  that they put
> news
> > one
> > out each year. It took me 20 years to get proficient at  my work
then
> > they
> > changed everything.  and they call us dumb mechanics, I  always say,
> > well! Fix
> > your own car next time if your're so smart.
> >
> > If you  are teaching kindergarten up to the 4 grade what do you
really
> > need
> > to know that  you don't use everyday. And why should the person
> teaching
> >
> > calculus get the same  pay as the one who teaches basic math.
> >
> > I knew a woman who was the  highest paid teacher in the Sacramento
> > school
> > district, she taught 3rd grade.  Something is wrong here. What
> happened
> > to you
> > get paid for what you do not who  you are. Don't get started on this
> > stuff.
> >
> > Walt Davies
> > Cooper Hollow  Farm
> > Monmouth, OR 97361
> > 503 623-0460
> >
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