[AJD] Odd wheels on a wartime B

[Duane Larson]

Gary,
John Deere did not generally use casting numbers on their wheels until early
1941 - the 2/15/41 Field Service Bulletin announces the use of casting
numbers.  They were placed inside the hub, so you have to look from the
inside of the wheel along the axle.  They will have a JDxxxxR number,
normally.  JD wheels also normally have a "zig-zag" casting pattern on the
hub, while F&H uses a V-shaped hub, or hour-glass shaped, or bun shaped, or
...

F&H normally provided a casting number for their wheels they provided to JD,
and they are normally on the hub.

Duane Larson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Epps" <garyepps at fidnet.com>
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Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AJD] Odd wheels on a wartime B


> Where is the casting number or part number on a rear wheel?  Is it inside
> the hub?  I am trying to find the number on the spoke wheels of a '35 John
> Deere "D".  I can find no number on the outside of the wheel, hub or any
> place else for that matter.  I haven't taken the wheels off yet.
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <greg at theoldtractorcompany.com>
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> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [AJD] Odd wheels on a wartime B
>
>
> > John
> > I finally looked at your wheel pics. I am relatively certain I have one
> steel wheel with these hubs as I remeber thinking how odd it looked. I
will
> try to look and see what the casting # is.
> > Greg
> >
> > Greg Stephen
> > The Old Tractor Company
> > Stephen Equipment Company
> > Box 709
> > 7460 E Hiway 86
> > Franktown, CO 80116
> > 303-663-5246
> > 303-688-4170 fax
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:48:14 -0700 (PDT), John Boehm
<rustyacres at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Help!! Duane Larsen, John Grant, JR Hobbs!!
> > >
> > > I just picked up a disassembled styled B. The serial
> > > tag is missing, but the B2013R cast iron frame
> > > indicates a 1943 or 1944 wartime tractor, serial
> > > #136662-166999. This is confirmed by the cut down
> > > fronts with the wartime hubs. Interestingly, the
> > > tractor is electric start with lights, even though it
> > > was a wartime model that most likely had steel wheels.
> > >
> > > I've posted several photos at
> > > http://vintagetractors.com/whatsit.html. They show the
> > > bare tractor, but I do have most of the parts
> > > notshownin the photos.
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone seen rear wheels like this on a styled B?
> > > The rear wheels have F & H HC419C casting # in the
> > > hubs. These are similar to F & H HC419A hubs used on
> > > the 40 inch round spoked wheels for BWH and BNH
> > > tractors and also the F&H HC419A hubs on 36" round
> > > spoke wheels used on a few BN's, most of which seem to
> > > have been shipped to the Salinas area. However, these
> > > wheels have flat spokes (not round spokes) riveted
> > > into the hubs. The flat spokes are welded to the 38"
> > > rims. I have never seen flat spokes on one of these
> > > hubs before. I believe they are cut downs from steel
> > > wheels, since they would have been riveted to the rim
> > > if they were factory wheels for rubber tires.
> > >
> > > I've speculated enough- does anyone have any
> > > information on these wheels?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > John Boehm
> > > Woodland, CA
> > > Visit my web site at http://vintagetractors.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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