In a message dated 6/14/2004 8:18:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gwill at toast.net writes: Pay attention, Walt! It only makes the noise when the pilot *bushing* and shaft are NOT moving in relation to each other. George Willer George that's when the pilot bearing makes noise, Pay attention. Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460