[AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but greatreading

Wed Jun 9 10:22:35 PDT 2004

how long did you work for this second class city Frank?  I work for a second
class state and see that the time I put in to SS ( some 25 years) is
effected by the state retirement. I was kinda thinking on quiting the state
and going back into paying SS for a few more years.  The state cut back on
percentage of retirement when I got hired, the folks prior to me got 90%
after so many years and me I can only get 50%. I see that the SS off set
reduction is similar so those before us make out better?? .

I was at a benifits meeting recently and it slayed me to hear that a married
couple of teachers under the old benifits were knocking down 75K a year
thats to cost of living increases , and if they died together there 18 year
old some as the survior would get the 75k a year for the rest of his life
from the state and they are waiting to get there SS benifits on top of that.
Dang who needs SS when these second class states and govenment jobs set you
UP so good.

It's kinda funny that most state city county and fed employees usally have
time to find second jobs while working for the gove.  When I was in the REAL
working force I was to damn tired to go out and find two jobs.

Some one has to stop this waste of tax payer dollars.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank" <gremaux at tein.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but
greatreading

> you cannot draw social security until 62 ......which is when I wanted to
> draw on it
> don't plan on 65 though because by the time you get to 65 it will be 67 or
> 70(social security is online and will tell you exactly)
> mine is already 65 and 8 months
>
> and yes....for those who are still listening to this crap.....
> I worked for a small (second class )city.....drawing a pension of very
small
> portion(because it is based on salary of very small amount)(which is why I
> needed other jobs to servive so I could do this service and set up a
> pension)
> set to draw my social and because it this small pension Mr. reagan and
> company thinks I should only get half of my social security(also small
> because of other factors) so now I get pittance at 62 and damn little if I
> make it to 65 and 8 months
> the end!
> Frank
> gremaux at tein.net
> Central Montana
> www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Bivens" <bivenshill at yahoo.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
<at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis) Off topic but
> greatreading
>
>
> > Frank,
> > Don't want to get into the fray here or a political
> > discussion. I just have a simple question. It looks
> > like you are trying to say that you planned to retire
> > and draw social security at age 50. Is that what you
> > are trying to say? I didn't know that it was ever
> > possible to do that. Also someone else said that they
> > couldn't draw social security at age 62. I know
> > several men that started drawing it at age 62. I will
> > be 50 in a couple of months but don't plan on even
> > trying to draw social security until I'm 65.
> > Tim Bivens
> > Glen Rose, Tx.
> >
> > --- Frank <gremaux at tein.net> wrote:
> > > that's where you are both wrong....
> > > I did all those things......worked my butt of on 3
> > > jobs at the same time to
> > > feed 3 boys and set up things to retiree at 50 or
> > > somewhere in
> > > there.....only to have him and his congress pull the
> > > rug out......If you
> > > think I did not work my butt off you got another
> > > think coming......
> > >
> > > Reagan did it as he is the one that pushed it!
> > > If you know more about politics than I do..then you
> > > will know
> > >
> > > I have said 3 times now that the Davis thing was
> > > great........but not the
> > > smoke blowing I get from others. It was her father
> > > and I would hope my sons
> > > might think of me when I am gone.
> > >
> > > I say no more on the subject
> > >
> > > Frank
> > > gremaux at tein.net
> > > Central Montana
> > > www.angelfire.com/mt/deeregp/index.html
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Greer" <greerfam at raex.com>
> > > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group"
> > > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:38 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti Davis)
> > > Off topic but
> > > greatreading
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for saying that Walt. That's the American
> > > way! As an American, if
> > > you
> > > > can dream of something you want then you can go
> > > make it happen and you
> > > don't
> > > > have to wait on anyone to give do it for you.
> > > Congrats on being bold
> > > enough
> > > > to figure a way to be able to retire at 50 and
> > > then making it happen. The
> > > > Patti Davis tribute was pretty neat to read.
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <DAVIESW739 at aol.com>
> > > > To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:11 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AT] Reagan Remembered (by Patti
> > > Davis) Off topic but
> > > > greatreading
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Frank i lived under Reagan to and I retired at
> > > age 50 and 4 days if you
> > > > want
> > > > > to retire early then don't depend on someone
> > > else  to do it for you take
> > > > the
> > > > > bull by the horns get out there work for it.
> > > > > OH he  cheated me out my SS to since I am a US
> > > Cic.ser. retiree I don't
> > > > get
> > > > > any SS
> > > > > OH! well i did draw it under FDR for 15 years so
> > > i can't complain to
> > > much.
> > > > > We all have our pros and cons on some one and we
> > > should keep them to
> > > > > ourselves sometimes.
> > > > > Anyway the letter from Patti Davis really struck
> > > apoint  with me i was
> > > in
> > > > > tears thinking about my own life with an elderly
> > > wife 13 years  my
> > > senior
> > > > and
> > > > > what could happen to me at anytime now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Walt  Davies
> > > > > Cooper Hollow Farm
> > > > > Monmouth, OR 97361
> > > > > 503 623-0460
> > > > >
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