[AT] How to seat the bead on lawn tractor tires?

[Clint D]

This tire place that I have done some business with, uses some kind of a
real thick soap, that looks like grease but white, they will put that stuff
all around the ri/bead and it creates a seal, mesy stuff however but it will
work with the real stubborn ones. comes in 5 gallon buckets. I do not
remember what it is called

but in  a pinch, some thick grease should do the trick, but costly and
messy!

Clint


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve W." <falcon at telenet.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] How to seat the bead on lawn tractor tires?


> I have a few "doughnuts" around here someplace.They are a LARGE silicon
> filled O-Ring that you put around the rim and then hit the tire with
> air. They pop out when the bead starts to seat itself. BUT they are not
> as easy as the stacking method I gave earlier.
> Stacking is easy and for most small tires you can use an old 14" tire
> rim as the stack base. There are also air cannon type units that seat
> tire beads also, They are basically a large tank with a BIG valve and
> outlet to dump a LOT of air in a hurry.
> Steve Williams
> Near Cooperstown NY
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CEE VILL" <cvee60 at hotmail.com>
> To: <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 6:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [AT] How to seat the bead on lawn tractor tires?
>
>
> > Holy cats, guys.  Before we lose a valuable A.T.I.S. list member to an
> > uncontrolled explosion, does anyone know if bead expanders are still
> > available.  As I recall, in the last century (1959 or so), that is
> what I
> > used when pumping up new mounts at the new car dealership where I
> worked.
> > If I remember correctly, there was a flat strap about 1/4 of the way
> around
> > where the adjustment was made for tire diameter. The rest was what was
> > probably an inflatable hose, wrapped with a woven nylon material, and
> having
> > a valve stem into it.  The unit is put around the center of the tire
> tread
> > and adjusted snug.  Air is pumped into the valve stem on the unit to
> cause
> > the hose portion to pull in on the tire evenly all the way around,
> pushing
> > the beads to the rim.  Tire usually takes inflation the first try.  As
> soon
> > as the beads seal, expander must be deflated and removed, so it
> doesn't
> > become overstreached and go flying into left field.  Perhaps our
> resident
> > tire dealer will know where these can be purchased.  I can't guess
> about the
> > cost in this day and age, but will try to google it.
> >
> > Charlie V.
> >
> >
> > >From: Matthew <matthewx at dogod.com>
> > >Reply-To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > ><at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > >To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > >Subject: [AT] How to seat the bead on lawn tractor tires?
> > >Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:57:11 -0400
> > >
> > >I just got a pair of old lawn tractors (Ariens Emperors) and the
> tires are
> > >pretty dry rotted on them.  These things are built solid as a rock so
> I am
> > >in the process of restoring them back to running condition.
> > >
> > >I put a new rear tire on one of them, and it turned out to be a most
> of the
> > >afternoon project.  Getting the old tire off, and the new one on was
> easy
> > >enough.  Getting the bead started was the fly in the ointment.
> > >
> > >I started with crossing my fingers and hoping that my compressor
> would
> > >blast it hard enough to get both sides to catch.  Not a chance.
> > >
> > >Next, I tried a ratcheting tie down around the center to pull the
> beads
> > >out.
> > >This looked like it was going to work, but you reach a point (before
> the
> > >bead starts to catch) where pulling the center in starts to pull the
> beads
> > >in too.
> > >
> > >Next, the pyro in me came out and I tried the gas trick.  I have had
> good
> > >results with this on car and cycle tires, but there is something bout
> the
> > >fat little tires that keeps it from getting a good pop..
> > >
> > >I resorted to beating on it with a mallet for a while.  It did no
> good, but
> > >I got some aggression out.
> > >
> > >In the end I got it, with a rope around it, and a bunch of sticks to
> twist
> > >the rope with.  As soon as the bead would start to cave in someplace,
> I
> > >would
> > >loosen the whole thing up and stick a stick in that place and start
> over.
> > >3
> > >or 4 sticks later and I was able to get just enough air in to get it
> to
> > >seat.
> > >
> > >Once it is that far, you are home, but what a long, drawn out trip it
> was.
> > >Is
> > >there an easier way to get these things to seat?
> > >
> > >--Matthew
> > >
> > >
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